How big is big? – How does retirement capital become the nation’s “wealth fund”?

Do you think the LGPS is big? If so, then think about the money pouring into retirement savings over the next 10 years as John Mitchem does.

The paper in John Mitchem’s post is hard work but the table of the major consolidations of the past 12 years is fascinating to even a novice like me

and most recently.

What this tells me is that consolidation is continuing to happen and will make LGPS one of several large funds in the UK in ten or twenty years.

It will not grow in real terms as much as the big master trusts as they are young and it is mature. LGPS will pay pensions as fast as it receives contributions while the master trusts are only starting to decumulate. CDC will be the same, The DB system in the private sector may still consolidate around superfunds (if the legislators and regulators continue to cock it up), but it is consolidation of schemes that are on the way out.

My point and I think John Mitchem’s point is to think of consolidation in trillions and that will come from European (not just British) retirement saving.

TIAA/Nuveen are buying into something that they see as exciting, the savings world of which Schroders can play a part. But we have great organisations that have the capacity to grow to trillions just as TIAA and BlackRock have. I am thinking of organisations like M&G (which has in Prufund a £130bn pool that could explode). I am thinking of Aberdeen which is showing itself interested in doing different things, there are others that may grow to be £1 trillion consolidators and achieve what LGPS cannot and does not need to do.

LGPS is a big pension scheme but that’s it. If we really want to harness the wealth of the nation to make us great again, we should not be relying on it, it is not the place to go to save the country. We need to recognise that TIAA/Nuveen is doing, that there is much greater value in our DC and CDC future than in raiding our at best stable DB schemes. Our future is our youth and they are not (save for when in the public sector) relying on DB. They are relying on investment in DC and CDC growth and so should Britain.

 

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We need to free the leaseholders and support Scoffin, Ali , Rayner and Gove in parliament next week

I got this as I came out of an encouraging meeting yesterday afternoon. My heart went from gentle warmth to burning pension when I read my WhatsApp feed.

To my great disappointment, I am attending a friend’s funeral when Harry is speaking to a select committee, but he needs no one to support him, he is a young, brave and intelligent man who is fighting for all us leaseholders whose p/l and balance sheet are depressed by our treatment by managing agents and by the pernicious system of ground rent. Put another way – leaseholders are seeing their bank accounts raided to pay unnecessary bills and their property falling in value as people walk away from buying leasehold flats.

Harry’s session with  is immediately prior to a session with two campaigning MPs who I admire. Angela Rayner was a shadow pension minister and has always understood the needs of ordinary people. Gove has stood out for leaseholders for many years and is a worthy partner of Rayner. They could and should get press coverage.

Labour’s defeat at the Manchester bye-election  further weakens the already embattled prime minister, with many of Starmer’s MPs looking over their shoulders at a potential Green challenge.

Angela Rayner, the former deputy prime minister who is regarded as a future challenger to Starmer, said the result “must be a wake up call”, adding that the government had to “be braver”.

In the opinion of Harry Scoffiin, the Leasehold Reform Bill is a case in point.

Here is the set up for the morning, if you want to go, watch it live or watch it (as I will have to) after whatever you were doing before this announcement

First the links to watch (if you cannot get to Westminster), together with links to relevant information if you want to gen up

Harry is speaking with Halima Ali who campaigns for those being fleeced by managing agents. You know Harry’s work from this blog but here is the work of Halima and that of her team.

Their campaign is..

To put a stop to the use of the private estate model as a means of exploiting estate residents and delivering sub standard estates. Our aim is to abolish privately managed estates which are publicly accessible in favour of adoption by the public authorities.

Download here

The last word is with Harry

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A night that is green and pink! Well done Hannah Spencer

The loss of Gorton and Denton is worse than that sounds. Labour not only lost it to Reform, they lost it to both popular departments, the other being Reform UK.

To suppose that this has no meaning and is but a mid-term aberration by a bit of Manchester is crazy. There is no superstar in Hannah Spencer, she is an ordinary lady who worked as a plumber.

It is time that the Labour party woke up and behaved as a party that helps the working people that both Reform and the Greens have claimed (rightly) to have the support of.

We will see how this plays out over the weeks to come, but for now , the night is most specially green (and pink)

Left split

Turnout for the by-election was 47.6 per cent, down very slightly from 47.8 per cent at the 2024 general election. Scores on the door in percentage figures, because I think that better captures the important dynamics in by-elections.

Hannah Spencer (Green Party): 40.7 per cent (+27.5 percentage points since the last election)

Matthew Goodwin (Reform UK): 28.7 per cent (+14.7)

Angeliki Stogia (Labour): 25.4 per cent (-25.3)

Charlotte Cadden (Conservative): 1.9 per cent (-6)

Jackie Pearcey (Liberal Democrat): 1.8 per cent (-2.1)

This is a much bigger victory for the Greens than forecast by the pollsters, and the reasons are obvious.

When I visited the seat I was struck just how many people liked the Greens and/or Spencer. But more importantly they knew what they didn’t want to happen, which was to wake up with a Reform MP, particularly one such as Matthew Goodwin, whose public pronouncements are so far from moderate opinion and whose statements about Britishness were seen by many people I spoke to as a direct attack on them personally.

Two polls published just before the by-election showed the Greens narrowly ahead. This was decisive in making the Greens the option of choice for anti-Reform voters.

Bar charts showing the constituency polls before the by-election

Of the four by-elections that Reform has contested this parliament (two to the Westminster parliament, one to the Senedd in Wales, one in Holyrood) Nigel Farage’s party has won just one of them — in Runcorn, very narrowly. In that race, the previous Labour incumbent had literally been convicted for assaulting one of his own constituents.

Reform keeps adding more and more divisive positions to its platform and as a result, most British voters are going to try to stop it forming a government.

Labour is governing badly and over the past 18 months it has equivocated on the issues on which people most oppose Reform. So, where there is a viable way to stop Reform that doesn’t run through voting Labour, people will often take it. True of Plaid Cymru in Caerphilly and the Greens in Gorton. I’m not saying these parties don’t have an appeal of their own to some voters: they really do.

A line chart showing Labour is losing twice as many voters to the Greens and Lib Dems than to Reform

But this by-election is a demonstration of the fact that there is a fear of Reform across the country that makes it hard for it to win an election, and a contempt for Labour that means there is no guarantee it will be the sole beneficiary of the desire to stop Farage. Indeed for Labour, unless it makes big and far-reaching changes, it is at risk not just of being defeated at the next election but of being replaced as Britain’s main party of the left.

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An endgame is not a fun game for a DB scheme – even for LGPS

 

Perhaps the most dangerous misconception floating around the “popular” Reform UK is that levelling down the LGPS to a DC scheme for new joiners will level up council tax payers (the popular Reform UK might see pensions as that kind of  see saw).

But that’s not how it is , as private sector DB schemes found when they closed in the first decade of the century.

What happens when you close your scheme to new members is you have to change your investment outlook. Instead of having an infinite time horizon and the capacity to enjoy growth, you have an ever shortening time frame they call the “end game”.

What the end game meant for private schemes and would mean for LGPS is a matching of assets to liabilities with a shortening horizon. Ultimately it would mean a selling off of all growth assets and a movement into short duration bonds and gilts and maybe a transfer to an insurance policy. All of this would push up the cost of the LGPS to council tax-payers and for what?

Far from increasing the amount of money for council tax payers (the levelling up theory), it would mean LGPS becoming an albatross around the public’s neck and for a new generation it would mean a DC plan that everyone, especially the LGPS employee’s union advocates, a reduction in prospect from DC. This would lead to a breakdown in relations between unions and councils, a pressure on wages and/or demand for DC contributions.

This kind of change does not come cheap and does not result in any winners. Instead of being a see saw it is a general reduction in pension prospects and/or a massive increase of pension costs. Worst of all, it is hugely inefficient. It might in the long term be better to move LGPS to CDC in some cases. Where employers have no capacity to meet the variation of contribution demands of an open DB scheme, but there is a better argument to say they should be allowed to leave DB and join a CDC scheme or simply not join new savers into the Reform proposed DC scheme but join a CDC scheme.

Anything is better than closing the DB scheme and moving to DC. That was the mistake made by private DB schemes in the early years of this decade and it’s resulted in the endgame we have now, in which only the insurers are the winners.


A better way for a large DB scheme to work

There needs to be someone rethinking the way DB works at LGPS. You have some schemes such as Kensington, moving employer contributions to zero and some sticking with 25% + contributions basing the funding rate of the pension scheme on a risk free funding discount rate of gilts + 0.5% or something hopelessly over cautious. Probably the truth lies somewhere between and so long as gilts is used as a basis of valuation of liabilities, we will see wild variations between authorities and the kind of anger I’ve reported on in the West Midlands and particularly Wolverhampton and Birmingham.

What would be better is that all schemes accepted a single assumption of assets in the long term at something that doesn’t change with gilts rate and is the same wherever it is applied so everyone in LGPS gets the same deal. Con Keating, a long time ago, suggested this should be 6 or 7% and  this right now would be gilts + 1-2 and in the years when gilt yield rates were close to 0% as much as gilts + 6-7%. This brings us back to the infinite time horizon that an open DB pension scheme should have.

When I was at First Actuarial they applied such a steady approach to DB valuations which showed throughout the famine years of gilt yields (through the early years of the century to 2022) that pension schemes could meet their obligations so long as returns and liabilities were measured by a simple measures – the value of the assets and of liabilities at a Keating like discount rate.

What the risk free discount rates applied to DB schemes in these early years of the century meant was massive demands on employees. The LGPS schemes were massively in deficit using these risk free rates and now they are massively “in surplus” using the same approach. Thankfully for LGPS it did not go for the end game approach of geared LDI and now has the benefit of assets performing well and liabilities looking cheap to meet.

This article shows the value of staying open and the problems of entering an “endgame”.


But now LGPS fears it might be in an endgame already

There are those in the LGPS who would like to make both the liability valuation and the asset strategy “risk free”. This means investing in bonds and gilts and using a valuation of liabilities as close to Gilts as they can get. This is seen as prudent but infact it is over-cautious and it means councils are still having to over pay into their pensions. It is resulting in Reform UK saying that the scheme is investing badly and in this I agree with Richard Tice.

LGPS is not in an endgame, it has an infinite horizon and while it should not throw caution to the wind, it should embrace growth no and stay that way. It should adopt a 6-7% discount rate for good times like now and for the bad times that will come. That is because it is big enough to manage good and bad times equally.

Above all, it should resist being closed to future DB accrual for new joiners. It should offer a CDC scheme for employers who cannot afford the cost of doing pensions the DB way and it should make it clear to all employers – especially councils that DB does mean some change in contributions. But we should not have the craziness we see today with contribution rates being charged to employers being so different – based on the adoption of different discount rates and different perceptions of the time horizons of the scheme.


A word in Richard Tice’s defence

A final thought, George Graham’s excellent (room 151) article is behind a paywall (I cannot quote it for their copyright).

LGPS is not publicly debating these things. That is what frustrates the people who guarantee pensions – the council tax-payers.

We need a proper open debate and if nothing else , Richard Tice has started that. He is wrong (IMO) but he needs to understand why; there are good people at LGPS and its unions to tell him why.


Thanks to good people like George Graham and Jeff Houston who have helped me fix my scrambled mind on this!

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Hywel Robinson – who owns the surplus- Pension PlayPen Coffee Mornings are back!

 

Hywel

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My frustration with the LGPS that could be so great if it tried.

I would like to tell you what the affably brilliant George Graham has to say but I can’t;- because the article sits behind a paywall. The LGPS does not let outside opinion into its closely guarded media so I can only sit here and consider why I am frustrated as a council tax payer.

I have written about the fury of council tax payers in the West Midlands and today I have been invited to a meeting with one of the few friends I have senior in the LGPS. I will ask him for his view of the LGPS.

Last year I tried to open a door, offering software to the LGPS to help their first year members to transfer into the scheme the DC pots which they can swap for inflation proofed pension. I have tried but with no success.

My technology team built a calculator to help LGPS staff to assess what their annual allowance tax bill might be – depending on their strategy. It was ordered, accepted and then rejected by a London Borough’s pension scheme.

I have suggested that its great investment pools such as Border to Coast offer their fund management expertise to newcomers to the awakening UMES CDC market. That’s of no interest either. Nor is the use of its tremendous administration teams who could help deliver CDC where LGPS is just too hard for local businesses.

I have done what I can to promote reform within LGPS. I have promoted single purpose pension authorities, as Jeff Houston  is doing here

I wrote about this for Surrey CC – four months ago.

Is it surprising that the LGPS is held in low esteem by those outside its bubble? I suspect that it has alienated more than me. Here is the comment of the person I am meeting later this month – a public sector consultant today.

Hi Henry – read with interest your thoughts on LGPS surpluses and Reform’s plans – don’t disagree about a certain amount of complacency in the scheme – be good to catch up in person – how is your diary over the next week or so?

Once again, I will take the extra step if there is a chance to get some of my ideas into play, to make LGPS relevant not just to those in the bubble, but to those like me finding it hard to get in!

The LGPS is great. It is great because it is guaranteed to be successful in paying pensions by everyone. Many people (I am one) pay more into the LGPS (via council tax) than we do into our own private sector pension!

 

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The new technology center that’s West of London

The FT reports that Microsoft are looking to set its new head office out of London to West or East. I will be travelling in to London on the Queen Elizabeth Line from Slough.  I will pass through through suburbs to London that have been derided for decades since Betjeman called the German bombers in to drop their bombs and obliterate,

But like so much of the change in Britain, the change in towns, villages and parts of a great city are being transformed by technology. Slough is the greatest Data Centre in Europe and Microsoft needs data centres to develop here as it has in California.

What if Microsoft came to Slough, or Reading? Would that wake Britain up to the possibility that we might just be on the brink of a technology revolution that could make us the envy of our recently disassociated Europe?

Might our mighty pension schemes that now spurn Britain for California’s magnificent seven, recognise that Britain is the future for their technology on this side of the pond?

I don’t write with much finesse , Slough does not do finesse, not even the lower Slough that is Eton! But we have the water to cool the Data Centres. That water is from the Thames , the electricity that powers the centres is carried to the Thames Valley by our National Grid, people travel across this technological hatching ground using the new Queen Elizabeth Line.

I feel for Berkshire and Oxfordshire and greater London an excitement that I hope is being felt in and around Manchester and in the North East with Britain stretching beneath its bed clothes and awakening again after a sleep of some decades.

Yesterday out stock market hit a new high

When I am not in Eton, I am in the City , living beside Paternoster Square and our Stock Market.

We are on the edge of March; a month when spring begins, when Cheltenham happens, when we go to Edinburgh; this year I will go the Pensions UK investment conference with a determination to “GET REAL” (Torsten Bell).

The largest inhabited castle in the world stares out at me as the morning dawns. It is across the Thames, with its water. It still carries the King’s flag above it, nothing can stop our monarchy, older than Windsor Castle but housed beside Slough, served by the Queen Elizabeth Line and maybe soon a neighbour to Microsoft!

Spring is coming to this royal part of Britain – sort of!

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Civil Servant restitution for Capita pension cock up.

Emergency payments scheme launched

This article is from the Public and Services Commercial Union and can be found on its website


Interest free loans are now available for pension scheme members awaiting payment of their civil service pensions.

The introduction of interest free loans of £5000 for pension scheme members, instead of the payments due to them from their civil service pensions, will hopefully alleviate the financial distress the Capita crisis is causing.

PCS has been working with our PCS parliamentary group on behalf of more than 8,000 members with delayed pension payments.

Particular thanks go to Lorraine Beavers, MP for Blackpool North and Fleetwood for securing a Westminster Hall Debate, carried without opposition on Wednesday, which was well attended. Lord Davies of Brixton followed this up with a parliamentary question on Thursday.

Responding from the front bench, Baroness Anderson described the payments as bridging loans of £5000, or exceptionally £10,000, to get money into people’s bank accounts within days, not weeks or months.

Members are reporting to us that they are being asked for financial information in a humiliating telephone interview and then told a decision will be given in five days, but with a potential wait of 28 days to receive the payment.

In a meeting with the Cabinet Office on Thursday  the question was asked whether the measure is a bridging loan or a hardship payment. In response, we were told that the measure is intended to provide payment where pension benefits are overdue and that proof of hardship would not be required. PCS is monitoring this closely and, based on the intention set out by the Cabinet Office, our advice is not to accept decisions where the application is declined unless it is because your pension is not yet overdue.

As the emergency payments are being processed as employer loans, pensioners are being directed to contact their former employer. If your employment ended more than 12 months ago, and for payments to beneficiaries, this facility cannot be provided by the employer and people should contact Capita direct.

Capita can be contacted via their website or on 0300 123 6666. The postal address is Capita Pensions Solutions, PO Box 713, Darlington DL1 9JZ.

It is not just the unions who have been helping out


Civil Service Pension Scheme: Advice from a barrister on compensation and redress

Here’s a barrister, Paul Newman doing his best to help out; this post addressed to civil servants affected.

The dos and don’ts to protect your position and preserve your right to redress, according to pensions barrister  Paul Newman 

Civil service pension delays and errors can have immediate consequences: retirement may be postponed, household finances can come under pressure, and members may spend weeks or months chasing answers. Although official updates have acknowledged serious administration problems and a recovery plan is under way, that does not resolve any individual member’s case. If you are affected, it is important to deal with the problem in a way that protects your position and preserves your right to redress.

A recovery plan does not answer your individual case

A scheme-wide recovery plan may improve service levels over time and include priority handling or hardship support. But members still need answers on their own files. In practice, the key questions are:

  • What is my correct pension position?
  • What is outstanding, and when will it be paid?
  • Is anything missing from my record?
  • What impact has this had on me?
  • What redress is available?

A general update can explain what is being done across the system. It cannot answer those questions for any one member.

What problems are members typically facing?

The most common issues are:

  • Delays (relating to quotations, calculations, pension payments, lump sums, responses and corrections)
  • Incomplete or inaccurate information (such as missing service history, changing figures, delayed record updates)
  • Poor communication (involving long waits, repeated chasing, inconsistent answers, no clear timetable)
  • Poor communication can turn a manageable delay into a much more stressful problem.

What redress may be available?

It is natural to focus first on: “When will I be paid?” That is the right starting point, but it is often not the whole issue.

In many pension administration cases, there are two separate questions: putting the pension right, and redress for what went wrong. The former may include correcting records and calculations, paying arrears, and confirming future payments on the correct basis. The latter, depending on the facts, may include:

  • Interest for delay
  • Compensation for distress and inconvenience
  • Reimbursement of financial loss (if evidenced)
  • A written explanation and apology
  • Fair treatment in any overpayment recovery case

A common mistake is to pursue the correction but never ask about redress.


Capita’s explanation of their failure makes no sense.

Capita complain here that they were not given the full state of affairs with Civil Servant Pensions and that only a proportion of the problems are down to them. Why was the problem given to Capita to sort things out?

At a session of parliament’s Public Accounts Committee yesterday, chief executive of Capita Public Services Richard Holroyd and Capita Pension Solutions managing director Chris Clements insisted the scale of the workload was not made clear.

MPs heard that there is now a backlog of around 120,000 cases, up from 86,000 when Capita formally took on administration of the pension scheme on 1 December last year. Thousands of newly-retired scheme members are still waiting to receive lump-sum payments and their regular pensions.


Some perspective – civil servants are relatively well off

It’s a nightmare for retiring civil servants. It is  good to see MPs looking at this . But there are plenty of people not so lucky that need parliament’s attention too.

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The dark side of auto-enrolment for small businesses

Cara Mackay builds sheds in Perth

You may find this distasteful. But  I know that it’s how  many small business owners feel about having to deal with workplace pension providers. AE for them is a tax and AE providers an extension of HMRC’s assault on them for trying to build businesses.

If you think that it’s easy for a small business to deal with Nest (relative to Starling or Revolut) then you don’t run for a small business locked in to Nest. Please don’t think that because it has £40bn of saver’s money , that People’s Pension is well loved by the employers that use it. Relative to what came before it may be working well but it is not universally loved, nor is any workplace pension , nor will CDC pensions for that matter. Small businesses smoulder with indignation that they are an extension of Government’s plan not to support people though a state pension and national insurance.

They may not matter to large pension providers, but to suppose they don’t exist is to live in lah lah land, I wish that Cara’s voice could be heard at events such as this one held this week by an offshoot of Phoenix.

Standard Life is just down the road from Perth in Edinburgh but…


Comments not on Phoenix but on Cara Mackay’s comments

Some see this as an opportunity to sell their wares, but I think most of us react most warmly to the later comments. Auto-enrolment is bad news for small businesses and no-one speaks for them.

You might want to chat with Boring Money Insights to find out how to cut through the bureaucracy and nonsense


Hi Cara You seem stressed. Just tell them all where to stick it!!! I get monthly letters of “you have been reported to the pensions regulator” by Nest Pensions, have well over 500 emails in their stupid portal that im not going to open individually, and never missed a payment. Same stress here. They are all useless.


Nest is actually the most PAINFUL and horrendous system on the planet.


I don’t have a strong view on the topic you wrote about, however I wanted to say I found it refreshing to read your post on LinkedIn. I particularly enjoyed the expressive tone (aka swearing) and the fact that you actually are representing a real reaction. At a time when almost every other LinkedIn post seems to be so contrived, manufactured, or just plain “did not happen” your post brought a smile to my face. Thanks 👍

I am not against auto-enrolment. I have operated it for the companies I’ve run. But it has it’s dark side. I have a few stories I could tell (but won’t). The providers who do the AE job aren’t trying to cause small businesses trouble. Being big and spending their time congratulating themselves, they have forgotten the pain of their dark side.

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If I was a strategist for an asset manager- I’d be interested in UK CDC

Let’s not forget just what a chance CDC is to fund managers in the UK. At a time when DB schemes are hunkering down into end-games and DC schemes are consolidating into a few schemes which still are primarily focussing on cost and passive exposure to assets that they can afford within the AMC agreements between them and their clients, CDC is rather more of an opportunity.

Here is an excellent article from Holly Roach of Professional Pensions.

Most of the pension provided by a collective defined contribution (CDC) scheme is expected to be driven by investment strategy, according to LCP.

Modelling by the consultancy revealed it is expected around 70% of CDC provision will come from investment strategy, with 30% coming from contributions.

As such, the firm warned investment strategy “should be considered sooner, rather than later”.

LCP said investment strategy “impacts everything” for a CDC scheme, noting small differences in returns “magnify over time“. It also urged the sector to consider reputation, resource and cost – whether a provider or an individual scheme launching a CDC structure – as the trio are “all impacted by investment strategy“.

The firm added CDC can “offer better outcomes” compared to defined benefit and defined contribution because “it can invest in growth assets for much longer” and can “sustain growth exposure“.

LCP said CDC is “structurally better able” to remain invested in growth assets because it pools longevity risk across members, shares investment and sequencing risk collectively, and avoids the need for individuals to self-insure through early de-risking.

Source: LCP

LCP added inflation linkage will be “key” to CDC and warned the interaction of investments and pension promises will “impact generational fairness“.

Partner Mary Spencer said:

“Our analysis shows just how important getting the investment strategy right is for a CDC scheme. Well-designed investment strategies will be central to determining which CDC schemes deliver the best outcomes for their members.”

Principal Andrew Linz added:

“CDC’s ability to remain invested in growth assets is a key driver of strong expected outcomes, but this is not automatic. Outcomes will depend on the quality of investment strategy design; how risks are managed and communicated; and how liquidity is managed over time.”


Some thinking about investment of a CDC investment fund

I have been using a very similar chart for several years, invented by the doyen of CDC design, Derek Benstead

The opportunity to excel exists for asset managers within CDC  in a way that it doesn’t elsewhere in UK pensions.

This means that any proprietor of a CDC scheme must put investment at the top of its priority list when designing its UMES multi-employer CDC scheme.

So far we have not heard much from the asset managers and  a lot from administrators, actuaries and lawyers. If I was in the strategic part of an asset management looking for growth in UK pension investments, I would be getting very excited about CDC.

Thanks to LCP and Professional Pensions for explaining where that “up to 60% better pensions” that the Government quotes- comes from. It’s getting a lot of employers quite excited and I’m quite excited too!


Footnote; here is the DWP’s announcement last October

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