Don’t get caught by “lifestyling” – think about annuitizing your pension pot – says Claer Barrett

I’m not an advocate of DC options in the long term but I have a lot of time for Claer Barret and her advice for the wealthy readers of the Financial Times.

There are other things that a Chancellor could do, he could send bond yields shooting up as Kwarteng did 4 years before but this seems unlikely. Fiscal rules will be complied with and bond rates and inflation may be eased. Annuities look a good bet right now as Claer advertises. But if you’ve had bonds in your default DIY pension fund , your fund will have done ok of late as bond yields have risen to the highest rates since 1998. They have only one direction if bond yields and Government borrowing are under control – that’s down!

But isn’t this so hard? If you are reading my blog, you probably understand Claer’s arguments but it’s unlikely you get to think about them, read about them, are able to understand them if you’re the 15m who haven’t got enough pension to get by.

Taking lifestyle decisions sounds pretty innocuous but these are lifetime decisions and most are taken for you with a sophisticated drawdown strategy called flex and fix in mind.

That will end in an annuity eventually (the fix) and will insure against your annuity conversion rate going down when you are having one bought for you. This is called “guided retirement” it’s coming soon but it’s already where the pot you’re in will be going if you take no action.

To take action and lock in the high annuity conversion rate that are on offer is a good deal but you should recognise that the Government has advertised that the coming CDC pensions will convert pots to collective pensions that will be considerably higher – up to 60% higher said the DWP’s advertisement last October.

The best news for those who don’t have advisers or read the FT is not to worry. Things are getting better and you may be lucky enough to be in one of these “bigger collective pension funds” that will deliver better outcome for “future pensioners” assuming you haven’t yet cashed in your pot or bought an annuity.

The usual warning applies, unless you swap your pot for an annuity , you won’t get a guaranteed wage in retirement and if you want that guarantee – now is a good time to swap pot for annuity (so long as you are over 55).

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Is tax relief on pensions vulnerable now salary sacrifice is on its way out?

This article is wrong as Scott Bamber says.

But it is written a few weeks before a budget in late October where a Government has little room to spend on defence and housing and the regions within the fiscal rules. Tax relief on pension contributions floundered in the past because a simple way for high earners to get round the issue was to duck pension contributions altogether and use sacrifice salary to get paid by pension.

From April 2029, pension salary sacrifice will be gone for all but a small amount of income which is of little importance to the higher-rate tax payers (especially those getting relief at 45%)

Now that it can only be done on £2,000 of income ,  higher contributions are more vulnerable, especially if the concept of the non- contributory pension scheme is abolished and everyone has to from salary to be in a workplace arrangement, It is easy to see this policed by TPR using a revision of the AE rules.

I like Scott Bamber’s post because he is young enough to have some skin in the game, He’s successful enough to be affected by abolishing tax-relief for high earners. Good on you Scott. Thanks too to the author, Philp Inman, a senior journalist.

The philosophical  argument made by Philip Inman is that Pensions no longer do what they were supposed to do. This is true but we have a Labour Government has made a lot of changes to how pensions will work for people.

In future, people will not benefit to a great degree from salary sacrifice, will not shelter inheritances in pension pots and will have to opt-out of default incomes from CDC R-CDC and Guided Retirement. Pension Freedom is not what it has become – or won’t be shortly.

I thoroughly agree with this move by this Government. Pensions should provide a wage in retirement for workers as a means of keeping a workforce from cradle to grave. There are a few private employers that still do this and they include the Railway employers, Universities and Royal Mail.

These are where collective pensions still operate and by and large they are multi-employer with employees moving from one participant to another. In the public sector there is the funded LGPS which again is multi-employer, the Royal Mail is to my knowledge unique in having gone to collective pensions.

Collective pensions are likely to survive as most useful for low and middle earners who do not aspire to wealth, to pots and to having advisers. I am not sure that “pensions” are coveted by most higher rate tax-payers, though they are a much part of the workforce than they used to be.

So I think that pensions (rather than DC pot-savers) could survive the loss of high earner’s who have had their pension contributions capped for some time now. I am sure there would be opting out because they did not get higher rate tax relief.

What would be the loss to the higher-rate tax payer? I suspect there would be howls of anguish from the ABI and Pensions UK but do they really stand for the bulk of members contributing?

If you think the way of unions and many Labour politicians , it is time that pensions returned to their philosophical home ground. Losing tax-relief would poster in big letters the message of the Pension Commission first report, that pensions will in future focus on the 15m who haven’t got enough as a retirement income.

I suspect that it would change pensions from being a route to becoming wealthy to a means of getting deferred pay. Pay does not  generally attract higher rate income tax ;  it appears to go unspent by the rich becoming  a means of IHT payment for those inheritances that are in seven figures.

I think it wrong to blame the rich for ripping off the poor though it may have happened. As Inman points out, we are far enough away from open private sector DB plans for them to be an aspiration among unions, they are seeing collective pensions in a different way. One of the problems with DB plans was that the vast majority of the funding was obscure and far from the transparency of defined contributions. “DC” could become a lot less complicated if it was standardised to a single tax rate on employee payments and a standardised balance between employer and employee contributions

It was always that the “executive section” of a corporate pension gave outrageously attractive terms. Professionals could use S226 individual pensions that were designed for the rich. It is not the fault of one generation of rich people, it is inter-generational- the rich have always enjoyed the bulk of the benefit of  pensions, not least because they live so much longer than the blue-collared workforce.

I have read about avaricious union pension officers who have found ways to line their pockets but if it has happened, I don’t think it is important in today’s argument. What is important that having done away with salary sacrifice and made wealth management with pension pots a lot less attractive, it may be possible now to put an end to higher rate tax relief.

John Healy would save a lot of money and Treasury taxation bombshells (such as the pension freedoms) do not  require consultation. Finance Acts are enacted very quickly.

We could see the impact of the savings within the scope of this Government meaning that some of the spending that Healy and Burnham want to do could happen without hurting the silent majority who still don’t pay higher rate tax pay – or get a proper pension.

 

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Doesn’t Pension Scheme Governance apply equally to DB and UMES CDC?

 

I cannot go to this event and would be out of my depth if I did.

But I can see the issues that are being discussed and wonder if open DB schemes such as USS have markedly different issues than those that will face trustees of CDC schemes going forwards.

Indeed it seems likely that DB schemes will have CDC features built into them. Haven’t USS been talking about increases paid contingent on performance of underlying assets in the fund?

I would hope that in due course Collective Pensions will be considered as including DB pensions and CDC schemes, especially when both are whole of Life and open for future accrual.

Shouldn’t CFOs, Heads of Pensions , Finance Directors and Trustees of DB and collective pension plans share the same interests?

This is a question to Emma Pittaway and other professionals working in this area. It is important that we do not let pensions become compartmented.

I hope that Emma and those at Bufdg will accept this as a compliment of their work.

 

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How popular is Reform with the business community and will that change?

 

Not having been to Reform’s Birmingham Conference, I can’t give a first hand report. As I have said on this blog, business – whether in financial markets or elsewhere, need to take Reform seriously and the Times report that they have this year.

Regardless, big business is certainly paying attention. The crowd appeared to be mostly made up of corporate lobbyists, including from NatWest, Serco, Drax, Rolls-Royce, Diageo and Marks & Spencer, mixed in with a handful of high-net-worth investors, partners from City firms, trade body chiefs, spin doctors and representatives of huge asset managers such as BlackRock. Vodafone had a presence, too, despite Zia Yusuf, Reform’s home affairs spokesman, having recently accused its bosses of “helping to facilitate the invasion of Britain” and threatening to send them to prison.

Chief executives themselves were absent, but top executives don’t generally make a habit of attending party conferences. Some City PR firms are understood to have been hosting more intimate meet and greets with senior Reform figures in recent months.

One lobbyist who attended said: “It will clearly be a huge event when it opens fully and had an impressive scale and ambition, but as a business day it was frustrating, missing a big moment or platform address, and with no meaningful round-table opportunity to engage with politicians or discuss policy.”

These comments were made before the Thursday night bombshell by Channel 4 (my comments here)

Meanwhile, at the Conference there was business to be talked about and though the Times found what was said was professional, there seemed to be a lack of serious talk about the nation’s economy and business’ place in it.

Back at the business day, much of the heavy lifting was left to Jenrick, Richard Tice, Danny Kruger, Suella Braverman and Lee Anderson. Jenrick, a former Treasury secretary, moved between a series of panel sessions, seeking to portray himself as a suitable chancellor-in-waiting. He mused confidently on the Bank of England — “too closed” and in need of more “diversity of thought” — the exodus of UK-listed companies and the need to bring down energy prices.

Tice, meanwhile, impressed some with Reform’s goal of streamlining planning. “That was all pretty clear and there was something to read which gave clarity on their policy position,” said one attendee. “But it was entirely focused on building more houses, nothing about business in there at all.”

These seem to be at “thought tank” stage. There just isn’t enough of a party to justify being taken seriously.

One thing that was striking was how effectively Reform has positioned itself as the party of small business, rather than large corporate interests — and the hint of a tension between the two. In a closing discussion on financial policy, Jenrick declared Reform a “worker’s party” that was “not for the super rich” but “unashamedly for the 80 per cent in the middle”.

A party official zealously agreed: “Those are our people.”

Reconciling the interests of the cab drivers, sole traders and other small firms along with those of the financial elite could prove tricky down the line. “It’s not the 80 per cent that pay the most tax, it’s the [top] 20 per cent,” one private investor sighed following Jenrick’s session on the City.

There were also frustrations at the relatively small pool of politicians Reform had in play. “Jenrick was good but he, [Danny] Kruger and [Lee] Anderson were speaking at every fringe and panel so it got repetitive, they got tired and they had little new to say or announce,” the lobbyist said. “It was a pain being talked at, not to.”

So what is Reform going to become as it fills in the holes and moves from being start up to scale up as a party?

This matters a lot, because small business , no matter how important it is, is not going to drive forward growth.  It’s hard to see our bonds and equity (private and public) move in the direction that creates momentum.

The difference between the Conference in Birmingham and what happened when Burnham became leader and then prime minister is very stark. To suppose that the Labour party excludes the kind of people who turn up at Reform events is naive. The Labour party   includes the unions and excludes the people in Dover who covered their face-masks in protesting against what arrives from France.

Nobody want to ban business from party conferences , it is up to them to make the most of their opportunities, but I don’t get the impression that they will be very impressed by what is going inside the Conference and out.

If big business walks out on Reform or is evicted by protestors at Reform’s speech, then that may not go down well with Reform’s loyalists. It may be as Maga’s loyalists do in the US and that may be successful for Reform.

What we will see is how Reform will fare through the conference season. My guess is that it will find it hard to keep the business community at the Conference this weekend.

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“Super” is super for UK commercial providers but not our pensions!

The real reason why delegations from UK commercial pension scheme set off to Australia so frequently is they’re looking for reasons why the UK Government should adopt the means tested “age pension”.

The answer is simple and good reading if you run a workplace savings plan – like master trust or group personal pension

Yes, rather than lean on the Australian taxation system, Super, which needs no incentivisation (it is compulsory) is relieving the Australian tax-payer of State Pension liabilities. Here it is spelt out by Penny Pryce.

Australians are relying less on the age pension to fund their retirement as their super balances grow, according to Association of Superannuation Funds of Australia (ASFA) research.

The study revealed about 56 per cent of people aged 65 or over now receive a full or part age pension compared to 70 per cent in 2012.

Average superannuation balances for people aged over 15 were $202,644 for men and $164,206 for women in 2023/24, up from $192,119 and $154,641 in the previous financial year.

Super has three things going for it if you want it in the UK

  1. It is compulsory with a contribution rate at the 12% the Pension UK want for UK savers
  2. It is an easy sell to a welfare cutting government as justification for cutting state pension and eventually means testing it
  3. It offers “balances” which like our “pots” offers wealth management opportunities (not yet pensions)

Australians are very proud of themselves for having de-risked the state of a DB pension through a well funded DC pension system, above expected returns on Super investments and agreement from all parties (employers, unions and Government) that this is good news for Australia. Here is Penny’s verdict.

As more people reach retirement having had the benefit of double-digit compulsory super for most of their lives, we’ll see the system come to full maturity, with most retirees living on an income well above what Centrelink can sustainably provide as our population ages.”

Treasury’s “Retirement Income Review Final Report” predicts the proportion of people over 67 receiving either a full or part age pension will drop to 50 per cent by 2059.

At 2.3 per cent of gross domestic product (GDP), Australia has one of the lowest public pension expenditures among Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development countries, where the average is around 9 per cent. Expenditure in Australia is also expected to experience a 2 per cent GDP drop over the next 40 years as superannuation balances grow.

“The system maturing means that we are constantly seeing Australians taking a step up, either from the full pension to a part pension, or from a part pension to being able to fully fund their own retirement through their savings,” a spokesman said.

The idea of needing a state pension as a kind of financial weakness is implied here.  The prospect of getting no payment from the state being seen as an achievement.

Over a decade ago, our Government Actuary suggested that we might be able to dispense with our triple lock if auto-enrolment was a success. There was an expectation not that we’d do away with the need for state pension but that we could reduce pension increases.

I can understand how our private sector pension policy people would like to get aspects of the Australian Super system into the UK but I don’t think that we have a view of the state pension or of compulsory DC savings contributions that are popular in Australia.

I don’t expect to see a Labour Government and our unions having the same attitude to either DC saving or to means testing of our state pension.

 

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Scottish Widows – is it a surprise we’re getting unregulated AI advice on retirement products?

26m of us don’t know what’s going on with their retirement savings. Does anyone blame them?

I love these pictures of focussed and delighted wrinklies  finding that pension reports offer  reassurance. I press the link that find I am being guided to “insights”

Part Three explores technology and AI are set to play an increasingly important role in helping people engage with their pensions and make retirement decisions. The latest findings from the 2026 Scottish Widows Retirement Report explore how innovations such as pension dashboards, open finance, gamified learning and AI-powered support could make retirement planning more accessible and intuitive.

While awareness of AI is widespread, trust remains a significant barrier, particularly for higher-stakes financial decisions. The research highlights both the opportunities and challenges ahead, showing how technology could help close the advice gap, improve engagement and widen access to support, provided it is implemented with appropriate safeguards, transparency and consumer protections.

There follows a direction to a press release which suggests that this report has answers which puts Scottish Widows and other pension providers at the heart of informed decisions.

Regulated financial advisers are trusted but presumably from those who have access to them.

The question I have from these findings is perhaps too obvious; what is going on with the 70% who aren’t saying they’d trust AI to help them and the 70% who aren’t wanting to involve a regulated adviser. There are over two thirds of those retiring who aren’t engaged with this conversation.

  • Almost one in three (30%) people trust AI tools to help with their pension

  • Eight out of 10 of them (80%) trust AI from regulated financial experts

  • Almost a third (31%) would take AI-based information on big financial decisions to a financial adviser and one in four (24%) would speak to their pension provider.

With over 26 million UK adults* lacking confidence when managing their savings for retirement, more are now turning to AI to better understand their pension savings.

I think it natural that as AI becomes easier to use (and free) , it will become the first port of call for boats that have been out at sea.

There is a supposition in this work that people will need to be advised or helped in taking decisions that they find too hard – especially around drawing their income when they want to turn into pension. There is a hope that AI will come to the rescue, but AI tools that are controlled by regulators and the regulated.

Growing trust in regulated AI tools

Trust is a huge factor when using AI for money decisions. Crucially, FCA-regulated AI tools come with formal consumer protections, which provide a safety net if things don’t go as planned. Unregulated or general-purpose AI tools don’t offer this protection – if they give inaccurate or unsuitable advice that leads to financial loss, people may be left without any support.

The idea that decisions don’t need to be taken and that (as happens in public sector pensions) decisions can be restricted to when to take cash and pension, is not in question. Most decisions taken with pensions offered by occupational pension schemes do not need advice (AI or human).

For Scottish Widows who offer pots not pensions,  AI is currently no more than a starting point, the door which takes you to a discussion with a human being. But it is highly likely that a lot of money is being drawn from Scottish Widows pots with instruction from AI and who knows if that advice is regulated or not?

So Scottish Widows find that people look for ways to keep these decisions regulated using humans. I would worry that the 70% who aren’t expressing an interest aren’t worried about regulation, they just want their money back!

Here’s what Scottish Widows’ press release on its latest AI support tells us.


The human touch still matters for big decisions

The findings also reveal that while AI is a useful tool for demystifying financial products and helping people make decisions about their retirement options, there’s still a strong desire to speak to a financial professional for more complex decisions when the stakes are higher.

For example, just one in 10 (10%) retirees would be comfortable with AI suggesting the best way to withdraw from their pension. Among those aged 50 and over, just 5% plan to rely on AI tools before taking money from their pot.

Almost half (48%) of people are worried that AI may give wrong or unsuitable pension advice, 43% worry about the safety of their data and two in five (38%) don’t think it would take their personal circumstances into account.

But AI has a valuable role to play in helping people take their first step towards financial advice, with nearly a third (31%) saying they would take AI-generated insights to a professional financial adviser and a quarter (24%) using AI information to have more informed conversations with their pension provider.

There is a lot that follows about the capacity for providers like Scottish Widows to use technology to help human interactions but there’s no question as to whether the products used to pay pensions can be simplified to make the process easy enough to take decisions online.

Nor is there a question about whether the FCA can regulate the unregulated advice which is everywhere you go when you search for help on pensions.

My view is that support for people at retirement is so inadequate that it is leading to millions of people cashing out their pots or sitting on their money waiting for instruction. It may be that we get that instruction if guided retirement becomes a default that tells people what is happening to their money. Retirement CDC in this respect is another option that may be “chosen” or the “default” depending on what comes out of the current consultation.

But with 26m of us  “lacking confidence” with our retirement savings can AI support us?

We either need a scaling up of human resource, a regulation of AI or we need simpler retirement decisions to take.

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“Moving beyond the obsession with regulating for risk”- Chancellor Healy

John Healey has told the FT

he wanted government decisions on tax and other policy areas to deliver “higher levels of confidence, investment, profit for British businesses”, adding that financial services were not seen widely enough as “the foundation and engine of greater investment and therefore potential growth in this country”.

This meant moving beyond the “post-financial crash obsession with regulating for risk”, he said, arguing for a better balance between risk and growth.

This is the ambition stated by our new Chancellor and it should send a tremor though the pension world which has been dominated for the last 20 years by an obsessions with “de-risking”. The obsession has concentrated on  the process of de-risking pension risk to a point that we no longer provide pensions but instead hand over pots. This is not “de-risking” but risk transfer to those who are least able to take it.


No longer investment , “pensions” are now just taxation

Since the risk of paying pensions has been minimised to it, the employer is instead  obliged to pay what has become a tax.  Auto-enrolment contributions are taxes that are paid into a  a few wealth funds which are called “workplace pensions” but which pay pots but no pensions to their beneficiaries (the staff).

The risk of paying back the money accumulated to those saved is no longer with employers. To retune to John Healy’s quote, the job of regulating for risk has been completed and it has driven us down a cul-de-sac out of which we need to reverse.

It will not be the employers risk , it will be shared between staff in collective pensions. The task for private sectors employers will be to participate in  collective pensions and  fund them to  levels needed to meet staff’s expectations.


De-risking has become an obsession with protecting wealth

Those who have regulatory power or influence are generally in DB pensions , being in the public sector. They get to hear the private sector through the ABI and Pensions UK who have an obsession with protecting the wealth of those they represent.

With the focus on retirement saving about pots , there is a new obsession, on how to protect it from being taxed when it passes to another generation.

The FT observes.

…. from next April, pensions will come within the scope of IHT, significantly increasing the number of people who will have to pay the tax — and sending feelings of both dismay and fear through those who have built large pots.

According to Clare Moffat, a pensions and tax expert at Royal London, IHT is now almost all her clients want to talk about. At a recent webinar the pension provider held, the panel received 56 questions on IHT submitted in advance. “And we weren’t supposed to be covering it as a [subject],” she says.

The problem with wealth as a risk is threefold.

  1. We are as a nation getting older
  2. We are getting more wealthy
  3. We see retirement not as a time to draw a pension but to save for others

But the people who are making the noise about inheritance are vocal but few, when compared with what Bernard Levin used to call “the silent majority”.

For those who have inherited money. a house with mortgage paid off and often a pension accrued in early days, the risk is that wealth may not “cascade down the generations” as John Major dreamed when prime minister.

The important thing for Andy Burnham, John Healy and Torsten Bell is to ignore the loud voices of the wealthy and focus on the needs of this silent majority who will not have adequate pensions – there’s 15m of them who have no fear of inheritance tax but the prospect of a massive wage cut in retirement with the financial horror of later age when the cost of social care is most likely to bite.

While Reform and Conservative parties battle with each other as to how much to reduce welfare bills (a further extension of regulatory risk-reduction). It is of course not risk reduction but of risk-transfer with no obvious opportunity for those who have limited wealth or income to pay the bills.

This is why we need to focus pensions not on the needs of the 20% who have issues with inheritance tax but the 80% who have inadequate resource to meet the needs of their own later life.

Answers for the rich and poor

The answers to problems with IHT for the wealthy can be resolved through whole of life insurance or through the purchase of an impaired life annuity (the choice depends on whether the worry is living too short or dying unexpectedly when healthy).

The problems of adequacy can only be sorted by a replacement of a focus on wealth with one of the retirement wage. It will of course need more money paid in but this cannot happen till private pensions become popular again. There is silent approval of the pensions earned in the public sector and private misery that there are no private pensions being earned. That is because of the de-risking of pensions to the point that they are no longer being earned by most of us.

We need to make “pensions” popular again and that means a move to collective pensions and away from personal pension pots. For a generation who are at a point when they could take a pension (let’s say those 55 to 75), the question is when moving to retirement income is possible and the pension dashboard will go some way towards helping people recognise how far they are from reducing or ending work.

But we will need Retirement CDC and Guided Retirement to move people to affordable retirement when they are pot-dependent. The annuity guarantee will be de-risking too far for most of us.

The workplace collective pension (CDC) will begin the process or re-risking pensions to a point that they can grow enough to meet John Healy’s ambition and reduce regulatory de-risking”.

Pensions have been de-risked to pots by regulation and as Healy says we need to move beyond the obsession with this regulatory risk.

We need to re-risk pension funds to create the growth that people need to get paid a proper wage and the country to be re-capitalised.

It will take a time to undo the damage of regulatory de-risking . But we have a much wider workforce who can get a retirement wage. We have greater inclusion in future pensions and a chance to do what the Pensions Commission II has been set up to promote.

 

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Well done TPT – first of the CDC challengers to break cover.

All of the crew at Pensions Mutual wishes TPT every success as they set out on their CDC journey. We sound like we have a similar pathway to authorisation and launch and hope that we can compete to offer employers and their staff the best that collective pensions can deliver.

Thanks to IPE for the support you are giving Collective Pensions.

 

TPT Retirement Solutions is targeting the launch of its multi-employer collective defined contribution (CDC) scheme with around 12,000 to 14,000 members, significantly above the 5,000-member level it had initially expected to need to establish the fund.

The pension provider said it expects to submit its application for authorisation to the Pensions Regulator (TPR) in the coming weeks, with an internal target of launching the scheme around mid-2027, subject to regulatory approval.

Paul Eagles, head of CDC at TPT, said the provider had initially been targeting around 5,000 members for launch, although the regulatory framework suggested a scheme could potentially be established with around 1,500 members.

The figures reflect interest from employers that TPT expects could move members into its multi-employer CDC arrangement, rather than confirmed membership on day one.

TPT plans to stagger the entry of employers during the first year of the scheme rather than bring all interested employers in simultaneously.

Andy O’Regan, chief client strategy officer at TPT, said the provider was already discussing how prospective sponsors could be grouped for entry.

“We won’t be able to put all of our interested employers in on day one because of the timing,”

O’Regan said.

“So, we’re going to be staggering, bringing them in through that first year of launch.”

Andy O’Regan at TPT Retirement Solutions

Andy O’Regan at TPT Retirement Solutions


Authorisation

TPT has been developing its CDC proposition for around three years. The plans follow the introduction of regulations allowing multi-employer CDC schemes to operate, with the legislation coming into force on 31 July and TPR releasing application forms and guidance on 3 August.

Once submitted, the authorisation process can take up to six months. O’Regan said TPT was therefore working towards a 2027 launch.

“We say to prospects: authorisation submission is 26 and launch in 27,”

he added.

The provider said demand was not expected to be a barrier to launch. It is already receiving detailed plans from employers about moving their DC membership into the CDC arrangement, with some engaging as much as 12 months ahead of the expected launch.


Employer interest

TPT said interest was coming from both existing clients and employers that do not currently use its services. Eagles said the provider held discussions with hundreds of employers, with only a small number indicating that CDC was not suitable for them.

Interest has been identified across sectors including housing, charities, independent schools and building societies.

TPT expects demand to increase once the first multi-employer CDC scheme is operational.

Eagles said:

“I think we’re expecting it to be a bit of a snowball effect.”


Moving DC members into CDC

A key element of TPT’s proposition will be the ability to transfer members’ existing DC pots into the CDC arrangement.

Under the approach being considered, active members would be notified that their DC pot would be transferred and given the option to opt out, rather than having to actively opt in.

TPT’s CDC proposition is designed as a whole-of-life arrangement, with members accumulating a target pension rather than an individual pot. Contributions would be pooled and invested collectively, with target pensions adjusted through annual actuarial valuations.

TPT expects CDC to offer higher expected retirement outcomes than conventional DC, while acknowledging that benefits are targets rather than guarantees. For employers, the attraction is the prospect of higher expected retirement incomes without increased contributions or the open-ended funding risk associated with defined benefit.

 

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This problem isn’t over for 5m leased households – TILL ANDY BURNHAM TAKES ACTION.

Yesterday, late on Friday afternoon the Directors of the leasehold management company  of 5 and 6 Friar Street sat down to discuss how we could manage our property.

We would have liked to have done so as the owners of the freehold (known as common hold) but this is not on the agenda.

We would have liked to know why our insurance keeps going up despite us never making a claim (we have no broking capability).

Most of all we would have liked to know why we pay on average £1250 a year to the freeholder for the privilege of living on his little plot of lands (on average we lease 800 square feet of land).

Last week I had a £10 lunch (as cheap as you can get) with Harry Scoffin. I hope he cheered him up, I’d like to think I helped him to produce this great work of defiance!

Norma says it better than I can, and Harry says it better than the both of us as the words come from deep within him!

We have a good relationship with our managing agents which means we get things done and have as good a relationship as you can with a freeholder we know nothing of.  It could be M&G who own a lot of residential freeholds. If they think that it’s earning them any ESG brownie points with me, they had better think again.

We have two more years to pay our freeholder an outrageous sum. I will be 107 before the £250 disappears -assuming that Burnham does what his predecessors  pledged but never did. Heh- like many others among the 5m leaseholders in England , Wales and Northern Ireland, I envy the Scots who did away this iniquity some time ago.

Watch Harry Scoffin’s video and then send it to anyone you know who’s a trapped leaseholder. If you know anyone who’s benefiting from freeholds – send it them as well.

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Where else can you ask questions to LCP partners about collective pensions for free?

Join us at 10.30 am on Tuesday September 8th for a cracking conversation with two of Britain’s top CDC consultants.

I am aware of charge-out rates for top consultants at top consultancies and I’m amazed that two such – Helen Draper and Steve Taylor of LCP, are offering themselves for free for an hour on Tuesday of next week (September 8th).

We will be recording the session as we always do and for many, that will be the way to digest Helen and Steve’s answers , but I think the winners among those in the Pension PlayPen’s audience will be those who participate. So come along and join in the hour long conversation.

CDC is undoubtedly the most interesting development in the workplace and the concept of Collective Pensions the natural progression from the DC master trusts we have today.

I’ll ask a few questions to kick things off and I’m sure they will have some things to say, but this is a Pension PlayPen coffee morning to share experience and discuss the future.

Please add to your calendar and click here or post the link below into your diary. It’s at 10.30 am online. (Tuesday 8th September)

https://teams.microsoft.com/meet/349110786671465?p=44cRsS3vjiqJGdW8aF

It’s back from work and feet under the table and we’re having the first Coffee Morning since Maggie Rodgers and the AMNT at the end of July.

The great news is that the two LCP partners, Steven Taylor and Helen Draper will be talking with us and answering some of the questions that have been “sent in” below. I expect there will be many more from the coffee drinkers who assemble to participate (don’t worry you don’t need to if you don’t want to)!

We will not be constrained – we will venture into all aspects of this amazing topic.

What we’ll be discussing on Tuesday at 10.30 am is Collective Pensions (as the DWP would like us to know CDC as).

Is that a good name for CDC and what should Retirement CDC be known as? Callum Stewart has asked our opinion on CDC that won’t be with us till 2029 and which bifurcate opinion.

What do we think for the prospect of R-CDC as the experts call it? So far it’s WTW who say they’ll do it – do we think there’ll be more?

How do we feel about transfers of pots into pensions not just at retirement but before the pension is about to pay out? Should Trustees be agreeing bulk transfers and if so can such transfers be made without member consent? Does it matter if the pot is in a sole employer occupational scheme, master trust or maybe one day a group personal pension? How much authority in this does the employer have and what role does the union play?

And for all the talk, who’s walking the Collective Pension walk? TPT has put its name up and so has Pensions Mutual, a mysterious third CDC know variously as Arboreum and Collective Pension is lurking. Isio have made mutterings about getting authorised as a Proprietor and Aon are promising to get launch a workplace plan some time in 2028. We hope we have the Church of England joining the multi-employer CDC schemes that have been open to authorisation just over a month now.

What LCP think about this will be revealed at 10.30 am on Tuesday 8th September. The link to join will be posted on http://www.pensionplaypen.com (events) and on future versions of this blog so you can cut and paste it into your diaries.

If you don’t use a digital diary you can click through from one of the posted links and find yourself in others either expert or beginning their Collective Pensions (CDC) journey!


Please add to your calendar and click here or pastthe link below into your diary. It’s at 10.30 am online. (Tuesday 8th September)

https://teams.microsoft.com/meet/349110786671465?p=44cRsS3vjiqJGdW8aF

 

 

 

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