Could actuaries have had a better balanced address?

I must admit I wrote to Nausicaa Delfas to thank her for her speech. It is the first time I’ve heard the Pensions Regulator speak of CDC as a (let alone the) way forward. But I feel bound to give the view of my old friend Derek Scott.

This blog is by Derek Scott – ” A Retired Pensions Trustee”.

Derek Scott

This anniversary speech reads to me less like a balanced assessment of a profession and more like just a ceremonial endorsement that quietly sidesteps the profession’s mixed record to date.

A missed opportunity.

The praise is not just generous—it’s structurally insulated from evidence.

The speech opens by contrasting a “simple” past with a “complex” present, implying that rising longevity and system complexity justify the continued centrality of actuarial judgements.

That framing is convenient.

It avoids asking whether actuarial models and advice contributed to the very challenges now described—most notably:

In DB, underestimation of longevity improvements, procyclical funding approaches, and liability-driven investment strategies that amplified systemic fragility (as seen in the 2022 gilts crisis).

In DC, a design heavily shaped by actuarial and policy consensus that prioritised participation over adequacy, resulting in contribution rates and lifecycle investment strategies that are widely acknowledged to be insufficient.

By attributing today’s problems to external change rather than professional limitations, the speech pre-emptively absolves the profession.

Phrases like “trusted guides,” “strategic advisers,” and “your advice is critical” are repeated as axioms, not as defended claims.

There is no attempt to test these assertions against outcomes.

If actuaries are indeed central to decision-making, then the persistent inadequacy of retirement incomes and the self-destruction of many DB schemes should prompt scrutiny of their advice, not just celebration of their role.

The only nod to system failure—“outcomes that fall short”—is carefully depersonalised.

Responsibility is assigned to “the system” rather than to the actors (which must include actuaries) who designed, regulated, and advised within it.

There’s an implicit circularity in a regulator praising the very experts it relies on.

The line about moving to “expert to expert engagement with you” is telling: it suggests a closed epistemic loop where actuaries both shape and validate the framework within which pensions operate.

That surely risks reinforcing groupthink rather than challenging it.

The call for actuaries to “help us raise standards” further blurs the line between a regulator and the regulated.

It positions the profession not as an object of oversight, but as TPR’s partner in defining what “good” looks like—despite that partnership’s very mixed historical performance.

The role of professional advisers such as actuaries is to provide specialised expertise, sound advice, and proactive challenge to help clients make informed decisions and manage risks and opportunities.  Simply parroting regulatory guidance on behalf of a regulator falls far short of my own expectations of professional
advice.

The lack of clarity in recent TAS 300 reporting to trustees and employers is just one example of where we need to understand far better what actuaries are saying behind closed doors.

The sections of the speech on DB, DC, and CDC reframe longstanding issues as opportunities for actuarial expansion:

DB’s very troubled history becomes a “more hopeful” phase, with little acknowledgement of how previous funding and investment advice contributed to unnecessary scheme closures and serious misallocations of employers’ capital resources.

DC’s weaknesses—especially at decumulation—are presented as a new frontier for actuarial input, rather than a gap that actuarial thinking has helped leave unaddressed.

CDC is cast as an exciting new design space, again positioning actuaries as architects of the future without reflecting further on the lessons to be learned from past design failures.

In each case, the profession’s remit grows, but its accountability does not.

The speech consistently uses passive or collective language—“the system has not yet caught up,” “change is possible,” “we can finish the job.”

This diffuses responsibility across an abstract “we,” masking the influence of specific actors and ideas.

It also creates a narrative of inevitable progress, in which my critique may feel almost churlish.

A genuinely balanced address might have included:

Acknowledgement of past forecasting errors (e.g. longevity, investment opportunities) and their consequences.

Reflection on the role of actuarial advice in shaping low DC contribution defaults and outcomes.

Recognition of systemic risks introduced by widely recommended, and hence adopted, strategies like LDI, particularly leveraged LDI.

A clearer distinction between where actuarial expertise adds value and where it has fallen short.

Without these counterbalances, the speech functions just as yet more professional affirmation rather than as serious reflection.

It’s a classic “anniversary” speech: cohesive, optimistic, and politically smooth.

But analytically, it’s thin.

It elevates a profession’s importance while treating its very mixed track record as mere background noise.

For a pensions sector grappling with adequacy, and trust, that lack of self-critique is not just a rhetorical gap—it’s very much part of an ongoing problem.

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Advice market ‘stable but evolving’ – the FCA should be proud

Consolidation and technology are reshaping the advisory sector – but the FCA are on top of advice after a decade getting its act together. I would not say there was much to be proud of in 2017 when Al Rush, Jo Cumbo and Frank Field took them to pieces over the BSPS shambles.


What we find today

The UK financial advice market remains “stable but evolving”, with adviser numbers holding steady despite consolidation and rapid structural change, according to new research from the Financial Conduct Authority (FCA).

The FCA’s Financial advice firms survey 2025, based on responses from more than 4,100 firms, found that the number of advisers has remained broadly unchanged at around 31,000 since 2021, even as the number of firms has fallen by 15 per cent over the same period.

The regulator said this reflected a market that continues to serve client demand while adapting to consolidation, technological change and evolving regulatory expectations.

However, the data also showed that market delivery is becoming increasingly concentrated, with larger firms accounting for a growing share of assets under advice, while smaller firms continue to play a key role in providing local, relationship-based advice.

Broadstone head of personal financial planning, Rob Hillock, said the findings highlighted both resilience and transformation within the sector.

“The FCA’s findings paint a picture of a market that is holding steady in capacity but evolving rapidly in structure,” he noted.

“Adviser numbers remain, which suggests the profession is proving resilient, even as consolidation reshapes how services are delivered.”

The report also highlighted the growing importance of technology and artificial intelligence (AI), although adoption remains uneven across the market.

While many firms are exploring AI to improve efficiency, compliance and client engagement, uptake varies significantly by firm size, with larger firms more likely to be implementing or considering its use.

Hillock warned this could create a widening divide across the sector.

“Technology and AI are clearly becoming a differentiator, but adoption remains uneven, creating a growing divide between firms that are investing in more efficient, data-driven advice models and those that risk falling behind as client expectations continue to shift,”

he said.

The FCA also confirmed that pensions and retirement advice remain central to the market, with 69 per cent of clients seeking support on retirement saving, consolidation or accessing their pensions.

This reflects the continued shift from defined benefit to defined contribution pensions, which is increasing the need for ongoing, personalised advice as more individuals enter decumulation without guaranteed income.

Hillock argued that the focus on retirement income advice was particularly important.

“Retirement advice sits at the heart of the market, with around seven in 10 clients seeking support on saving, consolidating or accessing their pensions,” he stated.

“As the shift from defined benefit to defined contribution continues, more individuals are moving into decumulation without the safety net of guaranteed income, increasing the need for ongoing, personalised advice.”

Meanwhile, the FCA noted that many firms have already made, or are considering, changes following its thematic review of retirement income advice, particularly in areas such as income sustainability modelling, governance frameworks and client reviews.

Indeed, three-quarters (75 per cent) of firms said they had reviewed or were reviewing their approach to calculating sustainable income, while 66 per cent had made changes to control frameworks and management information.

Hillock said this was a positive step but stressed that delivering good outcomes required ongoing oversight.

“Managing drawdown sustainably requires continuous monitoring, clear risk profiling and regular engagement with clients as their circumstances evolve,”

he added.

Beyond retirement advice, the report highlighted ongoing challenges around diversity and workforce demographics, with women accounting for just 18 per cent of financial advisers and more than half of multi-adviser firms having no female advisers.

The FCA also pointed to an advice gap, noting that only around 9 per cent of UK adults currently take financial advice, despite millions holding significant cash savings that could be invested.

Hillock concluded that the evolving market would place greater emphasis on the value of advice.

“Ultimately, delivering good retirement outcomes is about more than technical modelling.

“It requires advisers to translate complex trade-offs around longevity, investment risk and income needs into clear, actionable plans that clients understand and can adapt over time.

“That is where the real value of advice will continue to be demonstrated.”

People say that I don’t care about advice and the advisers who give it. That’s wrong, I do. Many people can afford advice and don’t trust themselves to get things right.

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Good governance yes – prudent growth assumptions for CDC – no thanks!

Nausicaa Delfas, TPR CEO

This is the summary of what TPR’s CEO , Nausicaa Delfas said at the

Her speech at the Association of Consulting Actuaries’ 75th anniversary Chair’s dinner

You can read the text of the speech here.

A purely DC savings system would have made actuaries redundant

I do agree with her about the importance of actuaries to DB and CDC and to a lesser extent DC.

I say lesser because I agree with Nausicaa that

Too many people are still on a path to outcomes that fall short – not because they have done the wrong thing, but because the system around them has not yet caught up with the scale of the challenge.

And for many, it has not been clear what to do when they come to retire, often losing value at that point.

Which is why I have called our current pensions system “unfinished business”.

To me, DC is only a money purchase saving scheme, the purchase being an annuity that will return with Regular Income Pathways that end up buying the saver an annuity.

I know that the design of an annuity needs actuaries, but the DC scheme is a savings scheme not a pension and has a lesser need for actuaries. DC would eventually have made pension actuaries redundant!


The full system is CDC which doesn’t make actuaries redundant!

I will pass by her statements on DB which are important but to bring the past to life. I am thinking of the future which appears to me CDC

Then there is collective defined contribution (CDC) – perhaps the most exciting development of all.

CDC challenges the idea that pension provision must sit at one of two poles: full individual risk in DC, or full employer guarantee in DB.

Instead, it offers a collective, risk‑sharing model that has the potential to deliver better, more stable outcomes for members.

But CDC will only succeed if it is designed, governed and communicated well.

And that is where you come in.

CDC relies on sophisticated modelling, prudent assumptions, transparent adjustment mechanisms and strong governance. It requires careful balancing of fairness between generations, clarity about risk-sharing, and ongoing monitoring.

More broadly, CDC invites the profession to engage in system design, not just scheme design.

It is an opportunity for you to help shape a new chapter in UK pensions.

Here I will take issue with Nausicaa Delfas, at least in her use of “prudent assumptions” in the delivery of CDC.

Here is what actuaries tell me..

Quite simply the LAW says it should be on a central estimate basis.  There seems a real danger of mission (and legality) creep. This seems to be a big problem of the creation of a Regulator alongside a reduction at the main department. And an industry with a history of getting its vested interests satisfied. .

Prudent assumptions lead to defensive investment strategies and would take CDC down the path that DB took and DC will take as it lifestyles towards annuity purchase.


What is prudent for closed schemes is not prudent for open DB and CDC schemes

We think that though “prudent” is flexible, we had best not mix up actuarial prudence up twixt open and closed schemes.

DC and closed DB are finite products with a finite investment horizon. This means that prudence is quite different than what happens with closed schemes (and savings schemes targeting becoming an annuity)


CDC isn’t in an endgame where prudence stifles growth

What CDC cannot revert to is the prudent assumptions of a closed scheme. If it assumes that it will have an endgame that will take it to the lockdown that private DB and DC are in today.

I know that this will be taken the wrong way because we consider “prudence” to be good in all things, but it is not what made Britain great. What made us great was growth which often meant us taking decisions which could not be called prudent!

If we invest in CDC it must be with the expectation that we will see more volatility in the short term but greater returns in the long term. You may not like the assumptions that made the DWP claim that CDC could increase pensions by up to 60% on the outcomes of DC but the DWP did and to do it they did not use prudent assumptions!

Many of my actuarial friends hate that 60% because it says that CDC will not sit in an end game but adopt an infinite investment horizon. That might be actuarial speech but to me as an ordinary Joe , that means investing more aggressively and making assumptions about success that you can only do with confidence.

The Pensions Regulator must be confident enough not to make prudent assumptions about CDC. We need good governance but not prudence (in an actuarial sense)!

 

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The match of the day is in the National League; Rochdale v York

 

From York

From Rochdale

This Saturday’s game brings an end to one of the most thrilling, exciting and unpredictable title races in football history.

Both Rochdale and York City have the chance to write their names in National League history.

The National League is no longer a non-league competition. It is effectively a League 3, with fully professional clubs operating at a level equal to or higher than many of those in League 2.

We both understand how important this game is to both clubs and supporters. We both pledge now that whatever happens tomorrow, we will both continue to fight for 3UP.

Both clubs sit on over 100 points. One of us will have to fight once more in the National League Play-Offs. However, we both strongly believe that this shouldn’t have to be the case.

We call on the National League, Football Regulator, EFL and Premier League to come together immediately and resolve this issue, so that we do not have to highlight this injustice year after year.

For both sets of supporters attending the Crown Oil Arena this weekend, we say thank you for being with us all season. The passion you’ve shown for both clubs has been felt across the world. This game will be seen far and wide. We want to showcase this league for all its potential. Keep your support in the stands, not on the pitch, and let’s all protect the game we love.

Thank you!


York were up until the 99th minute of Rochdale’s last game

I think this video says a lot for the composure of both clubs in issuing the statement. It is only a game, though I wouldn’t be thinking that if I supported Rochdale or York!


An argument for two leagues to support the pyramid, one north and one south.

There are fans from the lower leagues arguing that league 2 should be merged with the National League and run as northern and southern (as the third division used to be).

I support Yeovil Town, we have been higher and lower than the National League. I do not want to travel the length and breadth of England but there are fans that do and we have more than most!

I can see the argument that Truro do not need to have played Gateshead and the other way round.

Let’s get it on but in the meantime, I’ll be listening to the radio for the Rochdale v York game before  Yeovil v Solihull! Forget West Ham and Tottenham the National League has it all!


Addendum – York in their turn score in 110th minute and sink Rochdale.

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Stuart Kirk bites the hand that fed him, I don’t blame him!

Stuart Kirk used to be a fund manager, now- like Toby Nangle – he has switched to being a commentator. While Toby is a teacher, Stuart is a polemicist against the laziness he sees in his former profession.

In this article he argues that Government may not be much good at making investment decisions but he’s not against them taking powers to finance Britain, he writes of a

“reserve power” that would allow the government to set binding targets if pension funds drag their feet. Again, I’m not as fussed about this as the House of Lords seems to be. Having a tenth of one’s portfolio in private assets is hardly extreme.

There are many in Bracken House who do not tolerate this on principle and I’m sure that Stuart Kirk gets a few angry looks from colleagues. He is in his early fifties and he’s hardly a lover of pensions.

Here in the UK, we can withdraw a quarter of our pension tax-free upon turning 55. That age is rising to 57 soon, though, and it turns out I had the wrong date.

I’m actually on the right side of the line and can plunder my pension in August next year.

Everyone should if they can, otherwise the money will vanish in inheritance taxes or some other ruse that Britain’s skint government devises.

Pensions may be tax-efficient for savers the world over, but they are, by definition, long-run vehicles and frankly, anything can happen.

You get his gist. He is a representative of a group who aren’t going to be pushed about in pensions any longer than they need to be, this faction will be off with the money doing whatever they like without Government intervention.

I doubt whether most voters have a clue that soon a portion of their savings will be coerced into ropey private assets or used to finance net zero targets. Of course, it’s financial repression.

But then again so are taxes, regulation, quantitative easing, inflation and a whole host of other tricks governments use to fleece us. To be honest, I’m amazed our gigantic pension pots have been left alone for so long.

Of course I do not agree with Stuart , but I enjoy reading him a lot more than the nonsense being pumped out by the high minded zealots who argue for fiduciary perfection. When I pointed out that Baroness Altman had been arguing until recently that Government represented the tax-payers who offer up to £70bn a year for us to use pensions and deserved a slice of the action. Helen Whately described her to me as a “cross bencher” Wikipedia says

She was appointed to the House of Lords following the 2015 general election as a Conservative, but describes her work both before and after the election as being politically independent, championing ordinary people and social justice.

Here is the Stuart Kirk that I read his articles for, the fund manager who bites the hand that feeds him, without any attempt to hide it!

It’s obviously wrong that private assets can be cajoled into funding state priorities.Politicians also have a terrible record at allocating capital.

In practice, however, is it that bad? Most pension trustees are rubbish investors too, in my experience.

Every one of the corporate pension plans I’ve been a member of during my career had woeful performance. Mostly from being overly conservative.

Plus, as someone with almost a third of their pension in UK equities, I would be delighted if a trillion-pound savings pool had to increase its allocation from about 5 per cent now to 10 per cent, say.

I prefer the journalist and former fund manager taking the piss out of the trustees and their current fund managers. I prefer the Ros Altmann who argues that the tax-payer is entitled to some of the £40-70bn he subsidises pension with, invested in his or her country.

This puerile argument between a Labour Government and everybody else will be over soon.  I can give publicity to Helen Whately’s latest high-minded twaddle because we are all on the last lap of her and her mate’s virtue grab

You cannot read it – it’s too small? Well here is is enlarged by me to make your weekend a little brighter (not)!

Well you can make of this letter what you like.  You can make of Start Kirk what you like. The bottom line is that Rachel Reeves and Torsten Bell have all the cards in their hands and unless the Conservatives find a way to crash the whole Pension Schemes Bill, we will have “reserve powers” as Rachel Reeves promised from day one of the Mansion House Reforms.

Let’s be sure that the ABI won’t state their position on politics except when it is quite the opposition to what they say in public. This is what he said to me when I called the ABI as undermining reform.

Stuart Kirk won’t be that bothered, he’ll have his tax-free cash and the rest of his money will  find its way into Kirk’s self-investment when he can find his way out of his Scottish Widows GPP.

This of course means nothing at all to the ordinary person for whom this article will be of no interest whatsoever! I’m on the side of the ordinary man, I’ll sell FT on CDC one day!

 

 

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Let this Bill become the Pension Schemes Act (says an elector).

I read with pain how an alliance of pension and insurance lobbyists and the House of Lords are in danger of derailing several years of work by the DWP and others to get us a Pensions Schemes Act.

This from Corporate Adviser’s Chris Marchant.

Proposed government powers to mandate pension scheme investment have again been defeated in the House of Lords, as the impasse between the peers and the Labour majority in the Commons drags on.

On the evening of 22 April, the government lost a key vote on mandation in the House of Lords by 234 votes to 152, a defeat by 82 votes.

There remains a possibility that the whole Bill could fail to pass, if the Commons and Lords have not agreed on a final version before the end of the Parliamentary session next week (1 May).

Aside from mandation, the bill includes a range of other measures which have seen less opposition, such as consolidation of small pension pots, and rule changes which would allow the Pension Protection Fund to reinstate a levy if it needed to do so.

Am I alone in saying that the House of Lords, which opposes any version of the Government Reserve Powers, are unelected and by and large past working for a living.

The pension and insurance lobbyists who push for an extreme position on policies put in place by those who were elected in a General Election, may well wreck a very good bill. I believe that many who make money out of pensions want things to stay the way things are. They would be happy to see the Pension Schemes Bill be washed up because of disunity between parts of parliament.

There is a part of me that says that this Labour Government should drop mandation which would leave us as we are right now with the majority of money in defined contribution being shipped off to overseas equities (mainly American) and the majority of DB funds being groomed for insurers to ship them off to Bermuda on the slow boat of buy-out.

If the Government has not got the right to have some control over pension fund investment going forward, the electors have no control. I have said it before and it’s worth saying that a large part of my council tax goes to pay for LGPS pensions , a large part of my income tax goes to pay for tax relief and for public pensions.

Since when has the only fiduciary duty been to pensioners. Do those who manage Government pensions have some responsibility to council tax-payers and do not the income tax and corporation tax payers who pay for private pensions deserve pension funds to invest for the good of society and business?

I liked the position that  Baroness Altmann took when she argued that pension funds who did not abide by the Mansion House Accord should hand back the tax relief they received. The new Baroness Altmann seems to have thrown herself behind the opposition position on mandation – which now looks like imperilling all the good reform of the Pension Schemes Bill.

I am not taking a party based stance when I ask that our Government, the one we elected and which has a substantial majority, is allowed to get on with reforming pensions.

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CDC; a workplace pension or just another way to “decumulate”? 

This is your INVITATION to a Pension PlayPen Coffee Morning

–  CPD is included

It’s Online – it’s on Teams and it’s on Tuesday 28th April 2026 at 10.30 am

 

What do the boys believe?

Henry Tapper and Chris Bunford established the Pensions Mutual to offer a workplace pension for employers who want to offer CDC pensions to their staff.

They aren’t interested in arguing about Retirement CDC,  annuities , flex and fix or drawdown. To the boys, these are just variations on the mess we are leaving people who’ve been in workplace savings plans.

Henry and Chris think that CDC is superior to saving into DC pots.  They reckon that building a pension is better than filling a pot.

The employers and unions they talk to agree;   if you have conviction that CDC is a better way to pay people pensions, you should switch to it as soon as it’s available

The boys hope that that will be early next year.


What’s this session going to discuss?

The session will focus on the differences between a multi-employer workplace CDC pension and a retirement CDC

It will look at who’s involved in this discussion . And it explains  the advantages of each version of CDC to different parts of the pension market. More importantly , Henry and Chris will look at how ordinary people will benefit from each variant and what (if any) are the advantages of CDC over a workplace DC savings plan and drawdown or a retirement pot!

As TPR moves toward publishing its CDC code, potential proprietors of workplace CDC schemes see a clear market division. There are employers who want to upgrade their workplace pension now.  There are others preferring  to wait and see the additional choice available from a DC plan from the end of the decade.


Do I need to register? 

Of course you don’t- this is a Pension PlayPen Coffee Morning!

Please paste this URL into your diary

https://teams.microsoft.com/meet/363312577277089?p=mRTbYV8BJpPUoo2cog

Or you can simply click HERE on the day.

If you are interested in these major changes to how defined contributions can be converted into pensions, this hour long discussion is for you.

Regards,
Pension Playpen

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Do I really need to pay for advice to get what I was promised?

The picture above is how advisers picturing themselves. This blog argues that for most of us, it’s nothing like this!

  • I find it extraordinary that we consider it necessary to pay for advice to take our pension.
  • But that’s the implication of this post!
  • We should be taking expensive financial advice now  we are too knackered to carry on working!
  • But we can get round advice by using a  piece of kit that tells us what we can draw out of our pension scheme?
  • Was either advice or software as a service built into the product we were auto-enrolled into?
  • I thought that a pension was perfectly simple but it’s not!
  • This is the madness we have created for a generation wanting to retire with money but no pension plan.

The answer the industry is selling me that I don’t buy!

Kevin’s kit is called Guiide and it’s free to use from this link . It is a wonderful piece of work and will allow most people who are financially educated to work out how much they need or how much they’ll get depending on whether they want to know what to save or what they’ll get from what they’ve saved.

Variants of this software as a service, are being developed by all the leading DC savings   providers as a way to help us take our money. But it’s so hard to take these complex decisions that people take the money in one go or take nothing at all. Most of us have no capacity to organise our own drawdown in a half way sensible way!

This software would reduce the risk for people who have worked out what drawdown is.  It helps you  doing your drawdown according to some kind of plan. Put like that it seems quite easy but

People are asked whether they want to take tax free cash, whether their drawdown should increase as years go by and there’s a lot to answer about how much risk you are prepared to take , answers to questions depend on growth in my fund. But risk is the enemy of security!

Infact, once I’d been through seven screens of Guiide I found myself smug that I could follow the path and find myself with a report , but I do not find answers to questions easy to take on board. I don’t find any of the statements below make much sense to me

At this point I realise that there is a lot of information that I am supposed to take on board. It’s information that I cannot process, I  don’t want to organise my future finances for myself.

I don’t want to be my own financial planner/adviser!

This is where I look not to DIY solutions but a solution which is done for me. Because no matter how I feel comfortable with theories like the rule of 4%, there are simply too many variables in my face doing this stuff!

Look at this and then consider all the things that go into my retirement plan, they’re listed on the left of my “dashboard”!

And this is not including my defined benefit pensions and my savings and all the stuff  I know I should be taking into account of! Life is just too complicated for a dashboard!

Instead of making it easier, my dashboard has just intimidated me with the wealth of information that I need to input to get somewhere! We cannot do all the choices here, when the choices can make lifechanging differences to our and our family’s lives.

This stuff drives me to an adviser or it drives me mad! Kevin Hollister addresses my dilemma when he says of folk like me

I think they should take advice, but the fact is less people are.

More and more people are flying solo.

As more people choose to do that, they are going to need the right kit, or advisers need routes which can help make advice less costly.

There are legions of people like me who neither can or will pay advisers;  we find the complexity of decision making needed to drawdown from our pot for 30 years – too hard.

Technology is a help for some but for most of us it is simply too hard to organise our lives around financial plans that we (and not advisers) are responsible for.

This is why I am moving back to where I started before financial planning took over. I want to know that I will get from my savings a pension that will keep up with inflation, pay my spouse a pension if I die before her and I want the tax-free cash that I was  promised when I started saving 42 years ago!

Do I really need advice to get what I was promised?

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BP seems to have got it all wrong ; from Pension funds to pensioners – fury abounds

I was not at the BP shareholders meeting yesterday, but I needn’t have been, it was full of financial journalists, pension investors and pensioners, all furious at BP’s failure to be reasonable. Here’s a pensioner.

I expect to hear much more from pensioners who were at the meeting as shareholder activists. We hear a lot about governance in theory but this is action in search of good governance.

Reuters and the FT were clear what was happening in the shareholder meeting.

I’m in an LGIM fossil fuel fund that doesn’t invest in BP but that doesn’t make it irrelevant that my main fund manager were involved – thanks LGIM

Legal & General Investment Management, a top 10 shareholder with a holding of about 1.5 per cent, also said it would vote against him, citing concerns that he was reducing the company’s transparency and making it harder to understand how BP would manage risks in the energy transition.


What were the resolutions that BP’s executive lost against their shareholders?

Here’s the FT

BP was handed a heavy defeat by its shareholders over its attempt to reduce its reporting requirements on climate issues, as investors also mounted a rebellion against new chair Albert Manifold.

Two special resolutions put forward at the UK oil major’s annual meeting on Thursday only gained the support of 47 per cent of voting investors, far below the 75 per cent threshold required for the proposals to pass.

BP had asked for permission to revoke two previous shareholder resolutions from 2015 and 2019 that required the energy group to release climate-related data, which the company said had been made redundant thanks to mandatory climate disclosures.

It also put forward a resolution to be allowed to hold electronic-only general meetings, which it said would allow more of its shareholders outside the UK to take part.

The meeting had already sparked controversy after BP excluded a shareholder resolution filed by Dutch activist investor Follow This and a group of pension funds, asking the energy group to set out strategies for maintaining shareholder value if oil and gas demand declines.

Manifold, 63, who became chair last October, said the resolution had not been submitted correctly. “There is no question of anybody blocking anything. If you don’t submit a resolution in compliance with the rules, we are legally bound not to accept it. There are rules we all live life by,” he said.


Reading inside and outside the room?

There seems to have been general resentment from shareholders. I have reported separately about resentment from employees and former employees being denied pensions that had been promised to them and for which there is money in the pension scheme.


It doesn’t end here.

Mark van Baal, chief executive of Follow This, said the defeat over BP’s climate reporting resolution signalled that

“shareholders refuse to let BP quietly bury its reporting commitments”.

The group is continuing with legal action over BP’s decision to exclude its own proposal. More than a quarter of shareholders also backed a shareholder resolution calling on BP to justify its capital expenditure on upstream oil and gas, which was filed by the Australasian Centre for Corporate Responsibility and a group of other investors.

Under UK corporate governance norms, BP will have to consult its shareholders on the issue and report back.

That last point  made by the FT made me proud. I was proud that  BP is listed on the UK stock market. This gives me hope that  BP will eventually be responsible to all  stakeholders.  That means pension funds (as shareholders) and those who get deferred pay from the BP pension scheme

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Reform UK or Steve Webb – who’s truth would you believe on pensions?

Steve Webb

Steve Webb is commenting here on news that I include below but you can read from this link.

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Here are the plans of  Reform UK as reported in its news feed

Reform UK plans to scrap ‘gold-plated’ public sector pensions for new workers

Story by Joe Sledge

Reform UK has unveiled plans to abolish so-called “gold-plated” pension arrangements for new public sector workers from 2030.

The proposals would see defined benefit schemes, which guarantee retirement income, replaced with defined contribution arrangements dependent on investment performance.

Under the plans, individuals entering public sector employment after 2030 would no longer have access to guaranteed pension payouts.

The policy would take effect if Nigel Farage secures victory at the next general election.

Reform UK has previously committed to ending such schemes for new local government employees, with the latest proposal extending the policy across the entire public sector.

The party, which is currently leading national opinion polls, is expected to perform strongly in next month’s local elections.

The pension reforms form part of broader efforts to strengthen the party’s economic credibility with investors.

Robert Jenrick, who serves as Reform’s treasury spokesman, confirmed earlier this month that he is reviewing pension arrangements for civil servants and other state employees.

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Party sources indicate Mr Jenrick could announce a formal commitment to abolish defined benefit schemes as early as this summer.

The move is expected to be accompanied by wider welfare reforms aimed at improving the public finances.

Mr Jenrick, a former Conservative MP who joined Reform UK in January, has raised concerns about the scale of unfunded pension liabilities.

He said: “Such schemes were phased out in the private sector decades ago. They represent the Government’s second-largest financial liability”.

The total value of unfunded public sector pension liabilities currently stands at £1.4trillion.

Under the proposals, doctors, teachers and civil servants entering the workforce after 2030 would instead be enrolled in defined contribution schemes.

These arrangements involve pension savings being invested, with final retirement income dependent on market performance rather than a guaranteed payout.

Around six million existing public sector workers would not be affected by the changes and would retain their current pension entitlements.

The shift reflects a wider trend in the private sector, where most employers have already closed defined benefit schemes to new members due to rising costs and increasing life expectancy.

This has led to a growing divide between public and private sector pension provision, with guaranteed retirement incomes now largely limited to public sector roles.

Reform UK said its proposals would align public sector pensions more closely with arrangements common across British industry.

Analysis from Policy Exchange suggests that closing defined benefit schemes to new entrants would initially increase costs.

The think tank estimates additional spending of £1.1billion per year would be required in the early stages.

This figure is projected to rise to £3.4billion annually within six years, but would be expected to generate significant savings.

Annual savings are forecast to reach £6.1billion after 20 years, which, by 50 years, could approach £40billion per year.

Policy Exchange said: “The scale of the liabilities involved means that public sector pension reform cannot be avoided by any Government serious about long-term fiscal responsibility”.

A spokesman for Mr Jenrick declined to comment on the proposals.

HM Treasury has previously said it has no plans to reform public sector pensions and has rejected claims that they are unaffordable.

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