Please pay a reliable pension and allow us to choose to spend or save it!

Professionally I am interested the wage feel is coming in when age changes their lives. That is why I called my company AgeWage though I have a less serious company called Pension PlayPen which considers while messing around, what can be done.

Personally  I’m interested in the income I get for the third section of my life. I am 63 and will take my state pension at 67 after which I look to retire on income from my workplace pensions (one of which pays me a pension , the other stares at me when I open the portal to its value as a pot).

Like millions of others older than 55, I can actually have my pension money now but I don’t want it, it would stop me working and like many my age I want a plan based on an offer for my pension pot. One important rock for me is a wage at every age, even if and when I am very old.

Claer Barrett of the FT is interested in the pathway we choose to the cushy lifestyle that most imagine ahead of them in retirement, most that is who have choices. Most readers of the FT have choices because they have no need to be defaulted down a pathway, they can make their own pathway (as per the diagram above).

After ten years of having the freedom to do what we like with money which was destined to buy a wage in later age (an annuity), most people who had no choices have been given freedom but with no help as to what to do. Now we have a Government who via the Kings Speech made it clear that those who have no idea what path to take , a path will be given them.

What will this choice be, some great minds are thinking about what kind of age wage we should have as we make our path to our final days.


Steve Webb and Bath University

I’m interested in Steve Webb chumming up with Bath University (his neck of the wood) and Ricky Kanabar (pictured). Here’s Ricky on Linked in.

View Ricky Kanabar PhD’s graphic link
Forthcoming changes in UK legislation mean pension schemes and providers will need to provide a default post-retirement journey, essentially guiding the profile of post-retirement drawdown.

Yet very little is known about pensioner spending profiles in the UK. In recent work with Steve Webb and Aida Garcia-Lazaro, we analyse data on spending behaviour of 100,000 pensioners and find key differences emerge across cohorts and housing tenure. Want to know more?

We are asked to  check out the full report here:

This paper – authored by Dr Aida Garcia-Lazaro, Dr Ricky Kanabar and Steve Webb – uses a specially constructed dataset covering the detailed spending patterns of over 100,000 pensioners surveyed between 1968 and 2019 to shed light on this question. It examines the profile of real spending through retirement for the sample as a whole, and then separately for different birth cohorts and different housing tenure groups.

They find that, amongst more recent retirees, real spending tends to be frontloaded, put another way, gradually falls as people age, but that this was not always the case. The paper also shows that homeowners tend to have a sharp decline in real spending in the early part of retirement, whereas social renters tend to have much flatter spending patterns through retirement.

A key conclusion is that proposed ‘defaults’ for post-retirement drawings on DC pension pots need to be tailored, and that housing tenure could be a key differentiator.

“Our key conclusion is that a ‘one-size-fits-all’ approach to pension
decumulation is unlikely to be a good one. Our analysis suggests that
providers should be customising their defaults based on key characteristics
of their members, and that the needs of homeowners in particular may be
very different to those living in rented accommodation in retirement”.


My contention is different – people don’t like to be paid like that

I am frightened that my capacity to earn enough to pay the bills for me , my family and help others who I value will disappear.

To suppose that older people want a wage that meets their needs and does not allow them to put money behind for the church collection or to put money on the Grand National is missing the point. My elderly relatives and friends who have put money aside are not considering health as the big drain, as a young “oldie”, I’m already thinking of paying for others to do things for me.

There will be people in my family who own their house and others who don’t but we will not be self-sufficient, we will help each other. To suppose that pension companies can determine the shape that the default income I am offered based on where I live, what I own and what I want is madness.

I am approaching retirement with the prospect of a state pension (paid to everyone on the same basis but taxed according to means). I am already getting a private pension which will go down when I draw my state pension (some of my private pension is a “bridge” to that state pension). Finally I have the stuff to turn to pension and I do not know how to get that paid to me as a pension that keeps pace with inflation.

To suppose that I can model the next 30 years of my life is absurd.  I have real problems with all these modellers from Legal and General, Aviva and Standard Life. They assume that I can decide in 2025 what will be happening in 2055.

I know damned well that I may not last that long and that I might last longer. I do not know if I will be self-sufficient or dependent on others to help me get about. What I want is to have a wage in later age around which I can organise my life not the other way round. Put another way, I do not want to model a rich opening an expensive end and a cheap middle (the U shape to theoretical later income needs). I do not want to be given an income that starts high and then is “Downhill all the way“.

In short, I want to be like everyone else having enough to pay the bills and some more to pay others and I want a degree of certainty of what that I’ll be paid based on what everyone else is getting. Customised income may be helpful if I opt out but I don’t want to opt-out, I never have. Most of my family and friends are conventional, we follow what we are offered without argument and there are expectations about wages which are hard-drilled into our lives.

So for all the experts at Bath University , LCP, Aviva, Standard Life, L&G and the FT, my thoughts are for simplicity and conformity in later life. Please do not customise my income to what you think I need, I will spend what I get paid and save what I want to save.

About henry tapper

Founder of the Pension PlayPen,, partner of Stella, father of Olly . I am the Pension Plowman
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3 Responses to Please pay a reliable pension and allow us to choose to spend or save it!

  1. John Mather says:

    While there is merit in consolidating pots don’t have one investment strategy for all the money.

    A strategy for 10,15,20,25 and the last 3 years will have different portfolios.
    You might also consider the requirements of a spouse so the planning will need careful consideration of inflation especially when you look at the OBR comments on the trajectory of government borrowing.

    Advice is there in the market but only affordable by the 6%.

    AI will improve this % but not much beyond 40% and even then too late for those now over 55.

    Perhaps making tax free cash only as 25% of the excess over £250,000 might concentrate the mind on providing income not capital.

    I was lucky in having to agree to take over illiquid assets in a divorce settlement
    So very overweight on the 25 year pot and unable to diversify when protections were introduced. The retirement home will be 5 star.

  2. Tim Simpson says:

    Thank you Henry!
    I stand behind you there.
    Tim Simpson

  3. henry tapper says:

    I agree that for those with the application and the capacity and the money to do all this, it makes sense. Sadly you and those who have worked with you are few and far between

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