Questions to the VFM boys

I’ve listened to the V-FM Pensions #154 at which point the boys start answering the numerous questions that have followed their plea for an interrogation.

Let’s be clear , this is the AI summary, not the inspiration of the boys.

In this episode of V-FM Pensions, hosts Darren and Nico put themselves at the mercy of listener questions in this Q+A special (part one…) that lays bare some of the current and emerging fault lines in UK pensions…

Listeners’ questions push Darren and Nico to discuss whether VFM is about member outcomes, system outcomes, or society at large? Pensions exist to pay money in retirement, and anything else is a bonus only if it doesn’t cost members…. discuss?

From net zero to DB schemes quietly propping up government debt, the episode surfaces a deeper tension that is at the heart of the system… are pensions private savings vehicles or instruments of public policy?

The hosts are critical of the current VFM framework as being too focused on inputs, blind to real-world outcomes, and ill-equipped to judge a 60-year savings journey. Meanwhile, engagement remains superficial, policymaking short-term, and adequacy the elephant in the room.

And hanging over it all, a bigger doubt: what if the long-term equity growth story the whole system relies on doesn’t hold?

Actually , what we get is a chance for Nico to explain why he’s on the side of Rousseau and against Hobbs when he answers a question from David Porter (or Doggo the dog).

We get another question from David Porter and one from Karen, Darren’s partner at Untamed Consulting. Chris Blackwood asks a question about investments (he’s the comms guy at Border and Coast).  All questions give Nico opportunities for merriment at Darren’s simplicity.

Darren promises to keep within the Tapper timescale of 60 minutes but as you can see above, they fail – not keeping it within 7o minutes. However-  we don’t get an hour’s question time, half the time seems to be discussing where the podcasts are going, come from and how they are going to fit in all the other questions.

Here’s that enjoyable Chat GPT talk – again!

All the questions so far have been reordered by AI and restated. As well as the abovementioned we have questions from Helen Forrest Hall, Simon Chrystal , Karen Quinn and  Paul Watson (whose idea this and the next podcast was). That’s about ten minutes answering each question.

All the questions are apparently too long. I think I’m down on the list for my question

Should the members of DB pension schemes have a say in the spending of any surplus that their pension schemes distributes?

If that can get a little shorter, no doubt Chat GPT or similar will find out how. We have till later in the weekend to find out if we get an answer.

Or another podcast at a time when our two Arsenal fans must be desperate at the team’s performance at Southampton on Easter Saturday.

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Founder of the Pension PlayPen,, partner of Stella, father of Olly . I am the Pension Plowman
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2 Responses to Questions to the VFM boys

  1. John Mather says:

    Keep it simple and loss motivate the investment manager

    Any scheme that falls into the bottom 25% for net investment returns over a rolling 5-year period must be forced to either merge with a larger Master Trust or undergo a mandatory wind-up.

    This creates a “survival of the fittest” environment where scale and performance—rather than just being the “cheapest” option—become the drivers of UK pension value.

    How do you feel about the trade-off between having a very cheap pension versus one that invests in riskier, higher-growth assets like UK tech or infrastructure?

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