FOR WHOM THE BELL TOLLS – DYING FOR OUR PENSIONS

 

THE UNARGUABLE CASE FOR PAYING PRE-1997 “PAID FOR” INFLATION PROTECTION

Terry Monk

The Pensions Action Group (PAG)

 

We are grateful to Age Wage for covering this continuing and increasing problem for FAS pensioners .

Background

I worked in the Financial Services Industry for around 50 years and from 1999 was a director of Independent Trustee Services (ITS) that followed a period with Bradstock Group where there were problems including the “Bradstock Compromise “ which was agreed to save the company but at the expense of those yet to reach their NRD in 2002

For me my NRD was 2003 and I ended up with initially a pension on wind up of £3,500 rather than the expected £35,000 !!

Fortunately, through ITS, I had first hand experience of many other schemes – working at that time with the DWP.


History

Through ITS , other schemes I became aware of the impact on thousands of others (140,000)and as a result became close to a group including Ros Altmann  and workers from many schemes including ASW , Deion , Heath Lambert and many others.

To bring our plight to the attention of Government and the press our “Stripped of our Pensions”  became headlines in the media.

There was no protection scheme in place although such protection was a requirement of Article 8 of the ECJ

In 2004, the then Government tried to minimise their costs by introducing a slowly improving compensation scheme (2004 ).

It took the “Robbins and Others “ case in the ECJ to bring about FAS and indeed the PPF. However,  there were many failings with them – indeed , to this day they still exist .


Current failings

This brings us to the failings which followed the 2007 Andrew Young review which tried to bring FAS in line with the PPF.

This stopped annuitisation with residual assets being passed to the Treasury t0 help Gordons Browns deficit (sound familiar !!)

We are told repeatedly that FAS is funded by the taxpayer however FAS assets were either with Insurers under FAS 1 or ,via the PPF, to the Treasury in FAS

Those assets included employer and employee contributions which were over £2bn. Had the assets been ring fenced (as is the case with the PPF) then their existence would not have contributed to the current PPF surplus. They  would be used for members rather than  initially for a reduction in the levy and most certainly not for investment in Government pet projects

Richard Nicholl and myself gave evidence to the WPSC supported by the excellent Stephen Timms.  At the same session were  Roger Sainsbury (from another campaign group) plus the excellent Sara Protheroe and Oliver Morley of the PPF

That  was in late 2023.  Paul Maynard gave evidence after we had met him in 2024 and we understand he had the backing of the DWP and Treasury although we do not know the details .  In spite of  recommendations of the WPSC the improvement never came to light. There was a change of Government with further delays and eventually PAG together with members of the ASW scheme met the current Minister

Still nothing has happened and the Ministers appearance with the WPSC  has just added confusion with no sign of clarity.  Letters take up to 6 months to get replies (if at all)

Members cannot wait and since the PAG presentation in 2023 over 4,000 members have died – as most are in their 70’s and 80’s.

We have had to fight for FAS.

Robbins and others

Hampshire v the PPF

Hughes v the PPF

 It has cost millions for justice SO FAR . Government has been ignoring demonstrations , meetings , thousands of letters (many receiving cut and past DWP replies)  and meetings refused by Guy Opperman and Laura Trott.


Examples of individual losses

The impact of the loss of “paid for” increases means the following for key committee members. These are examples of individual cases

ASW 24 years without inflation protection;  only 4 years with inflation protection

Other examples;

20 years pre ninety-seven and post -3 years

24.5 years pre;  -4 years post

12 years pre zero post 97 (Bradstock)

19 pre zero post

This is devasting for members and spouses.


Conclusion and action

 Please help us. The pension industry has grown and thrived though FAS and PPF

We compliment the PPF who we believe are on our side.

The Prime Minister stated recently “You can Trust Labour on Pensions”  !!!!

For more information on our twenty plus years campaign www.pensionstheft.org

Pensions Action Group – Campaigning for Pensions Justice

 

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5 Responses to FOR WHOM THE BELL TOLLS – DYING FOR OUR PENSIONS

  1. henry tapper says:

    I know that Andrew Young reads a few of these blogs, in case he is this time perhaps
    Torsten can repeat what Hanes Purnell did and ask Andy Young to carry out a review to find a suitable solution given the objectives and the constraints.

  2. alanmarnes says:

    FAS pensioners ask?
    WHY ARE WE SO DIFFERENT?

    The government continue to fully funded Civil service/public sector pensions.

    The failed banks pensions

    The Royal mail pensions

    The coal miners pensions

    and last but not least the politicians own pensions

    All these are funded by the taxpayer………….us……

    WE ALL HAD THE SAME WRITTEN PROTECTION WHEN WE WERE PERSUADED TO
    INVEST IN OUR PENSIONS……..THE GOVENMENTS OF YESTERDAY AND TODAY CONTINUE TO DENY US OUR RIGHTFUL PENSIONS…..

  3. Kenneth says:

    The Government must not just treat this subject like previous governments, talking a lot but doing little or nothing, relying on most people’s lack of understanding of the complexity of pensions and an almost complete disinterest in the lack of morals of politicians who have never stood by their promises that the pensions of FAS members were guaranteed and safe.

  4. Peter L says:

    How can the government hope to restore faith in pensions when there is a worked example of people who followed government advice, did the right thing, yet lost up to 50% of their benefits through no fault of their own. Governments of all persuasions appear to have been talking this out, in the hope that the problem will go away when we’ve all died off. ‘Trusting the pensions promise’ does not seem to be a good strategy if our experience is anything to go by.

  5. Ian Plumer says:

    All governments have failed to implement the findings of the Pension Ombudsman report in 2006 which according to the BBC report of 15th MARCH 2006 said that the govt gave inaccurate advice about the security of final pension schemes and members should be compensated.
    Here we are nearly 20 years later with the WPSC saying that there should be considered a change in rules regarding those that are suffering from no pre 1997 increases .Most of whom are in our 70 and 80 s and have not received increases for nearly 20 years on our pre 1997 service.The govt says it is complicated can it really be that complicated after all they have had years to look into it?

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