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The pre-97 pensioners who lost their pension – had NO voice at Conference.

16 years on – still stripped

Terry Monk rightly points to my blog and asks do I give the prominence to the plight of his generation of pensioners who had the bad luck to find their pensions collapse before the PPF was invented to provide such schemes and pensioners with a safety net. My blog referred to is here .

Terry Monk commenting on my blog.

Here is a mail passed to me by its author , the man who brought FAS and the PPF into existence. He is not sitting back on his MBE…

I entirely agree with your comments on Henry’s blog.  The problem we have is the reliance we place on the retail savings/“pensions’” industry.  Typified by the likes of Pensions UK itself, it’s “conference” (trade show more like it), the myriad award dinners, postings on LinkedIn of the success of buyouts, and the level of costs and charges throughout.
At least consolidation in the sense of getting rid of the plethora of “schemes” mostly set up when sold on the back of paying lower NI, will cull that fee fest.
We must be very close to the 50th anniversary in the life of the creation of SERPS.  Much opposed by that fee fest industry and finally killed off by the much lauded Adair.   Annoyingly abetted by Jeannie and John Hills, both of whom I much admire.
I doubt if there was anyone at the Pensions UK conference who knew much about SERPS.  It had faults and I would redesign it now and will in my submission to the Pensions Commission.
But it is hilarious to hear the industry bleat on about small pots, the problems of designing decumulation, the lack of coverage (because they didn’t want even smaller pots), the gender pensions gap (which was mitigated in SERPS by credits and survivors benefits, now abolished) etc etc.
WHILE IN 13 years they have not seriously tackled these, while moaning about people not saving enough.
I hope Jeannie sees her way to read Barbara Castle’s work as well as the wealth industry pleas.  My concern with Jeannie is that she has skin in the Turner approach and may not be sufficiently open to change.  It wouldn’t take much to make a proper difference to the people who need help.  The rest can easily save enough and hopefully the Dashboard will bring a dose of reality to them.
The retail industry can then work to make sure the better off do save more, which is fine by me.

I endorse him in his rant, it is a proper criticism of the short-coming of the Conference we have just had and it is a criticism of the uncritical support of the Pensions Minister.

I was at PLSA in April when Torsten Bell promised compensation from the PPF to those like Terry Monk. The Pre-97 losers now look likely to be punished till they die for contributing to pensions that went wrong.

Here is  an email from someone left in FAS with pre 97 rights. I received this today after the fellow had read a report of the Minister’s comments at Manchester..

“Addressing the Pensions UK Annual Conference in Manchester this week, Torsten Bell the pensions minister insisted that the government would not repeat the mistake of “leaving pensions until it’s too late”, and said that a long-standing consensus on the need for adequacy, consolidation, and better governance was finally becoming a reality.

I wish I had been there to ask whether he did not think he was already too late in improving the FAS

I wonder,  for all the time their staff spend preparing these speeches,  whether they actually think about what their words mean.

It is easy for Pensions UK to put this issue behind it. PLSA  put pre 97 indexation  behind it -so had another incarnation-  the NAPF.  But that doesn’t put injustice in a filing cabinet to be forgotten.

This Conference spent a lot of time discussing minor issues like small pots and no time at all supporting those who are now suffering loss of pensions. The PPF is flush with cash, hopelessly in surplus with no plan on how to spend the excess .

What is the Government waiting for? One of these insurers that the PRA are worried about?  Insurers using pension money to fund reinsurance- Bermudian obfuscation that could go bust.  Is the PPF set to become a bail-out for a systemic failure which we’re allowing to develop?  PIC were on our Conference Bags, Just had a large stand. But the PPF were nowhere to be seen.

I hope that a copy of this blog is circulated through the PPF, the DWP and the Treasury. It is not good our Minister promising justice in April and withdrawing the offer in October, for that is what the Minister did in his session on Wednesday.

Not good of the Minister to take no action – not good for the Conference to make no mention of this issue. It is down to Terry Monk and those who set up the PPF to remind us that  pensioners die each month without recompense.

20 years on, still waiting for justice

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