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The Zombie awakes! Truell’s robust defense of pension superfunds

henry tapper
3 years ago

Edi Truell spoke at the Pension PlayPen Coffee Morning, supported by the Pension Superfund CEO- Luke Webster

The meeting was structured to give Truell the right to respond to an article in the FT , taking Superfunds to task.

I was asking the questions and additional questions were asked by Jo Cumbo of the FT. A recording of the event will appear on my blog and in the press section of http://www.pensionplaypen.com

  1. Can you clear up what we mean by Superfund? Public sector consolidator (PPF), Tony Blair Institute – omni consolidator or commercial consolidator?

A consolidator of pension funds under the pension fund regime. Single set of trustees.  Backstop Capital provision

  1. Are superfund investment strategies putting reviving the economy/conservatives before helping the member?

Not at all.  Pension funds have suffered by not investing into real assets.

LPFA example. International examples and the likes of Yale or Wellcome
  1. Are superfunds a poor man’s buy-out, using pension regs to provide second-rate member security?

Significantly better than the majority of covenants

  1. Helen Thomas says the BOE wanted superfunds to be a stepping stone to buy-out – is that what you want from Pension SuperFund?

That’s the Clara model, which does not work

Pension SuperFund is designed to be for life

  1. Why haven’t you got approval for Pension SuperFund ?

Until Mansion House, the structure was not investable

There remains a debate one the ability of trustees to manage risk in real time, post the LDI crisis

  1. If all a superfunds needs  is approval – Why hasn’t Clara done any deals

I do not understand how their model can work, nor does anyone else

  1. With improvements in funding, is there still a market for you?

Very much so.  It has widened the universe of affordability for many more pension funds and their sponsors

  1. What do you think of the idea of a gateway that excludes well funded scheme from using a superfund?

Gateway needs to be either abolished as potentially illegal anti-competitive behaviour; or at the very least removed for funds that are clearly not in immediate range of a buyout; and for troubled sponsors

Who can tell what might happen in five weeks, let alone years?

  1. Are the Mansion House reforms simply giving you a chance to take more risk at the expense of members and the PPF?

Restoring a competitive landscape. The previous guidelines were such that superfunds had to fund to a HIGHER level than insurance (99.8% vs 99.5% certainty); and moreover insurers can use voodoo economics to present value future profits and call it solvency capital (Matching Adjustment).

  1. Why should trustees take more risk – what would make them want to do so?

Much less risk than continuing with a single stock sponsor.

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